High Elf POSITIVITY Thread 😎

I look forward to more top-hats and the various collared vests and coats we’ll be getting in Shadowlands (if the Venthyr armors are any indication).

All I say is — MOAR!!!


Ahem
back on topic.

One possible place for the High Elves to re-settle could be Gil’neas. Alongside the Gilneans and potentially some Night Elves.
It would give them a place to put their Silver Covenant ships (if any are still around from Wrath and Pandaria).
Possibly in a mage quarter part of the Gilnean capital have High Elves and the Night Elf Highborne hanging around (alongside other Alliance mages of course). Scouting southern Silverpine with some Sentinels and Worgen.
Good spot for like a naval themed lodge.
Think Lothern Sea Guard from Warhammer Fantasy.

Can you imagine Gilnean architecture mixed with Night elf ancients/ Valsharah aesthetics on the buildings and a High Elf quarter?

All the money in my bank account just isn’t enough.

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If they ever rebuild (or I guess build a new) Stormwind park area, I vote there should be a few night elven ancients and / or treants hanging around.

Same if a similar park area is erected in Gilneas or later erected in Stromgarde.

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Monk and DK are a shoe in for nearly every race it seems. DK just takes longer to write a lore reason. And High Elves have an easy excuse for one.

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This is something I completely i understand. I always facepalm any time one of my fellow pro-helfers posts something referring to “taking over Silvermoon” or what not. Suggesting nonsense like that just supports the anti- position by outright asking to take something away from Blood Elves.

When I think of “shared themes” I think of things in a broader way like focusing on the ranger themes that, while given less focus by Blood Elves in game, is still there and something the High Elves can share without really stepping on their toes. I wouldn’t refer to them as Farstriders though. That is decidedly a Blood Elf organization even if there’s some usage of the term by Alliance allied High Elves.

I feel like a High Elf ranger-themed organization would need it’s own name and not just call themselves Farstriders. A new name would be yet another thing to differentiate High Elves from Blood Elves while still sharing the ranger theme.

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There’s literally a high elf warlock trainer in the game.

I have no problem with high elves being able to play as Warlock. It’s Druid and Shaman that both have little to no basis for being playable.

Walk back to Northrend Dalaran and check out the high elf trainers in the Silver Enclave. Those should be the playable classes.

Every race can be hand waved by Blizzard to be whatever class they deem. No point wondering what classes fit Alliance High Elves. Blizzard likely already has a good idea of what classes they’d be getting if they ever get made playable.

I personally still think they should get zapped by lightning magic from the Thunder King and become Storm Elves to unlock Shamans.

But Shamans can be explained by Dwarves for High Elves and the Shamanistic Horde for Belves.

ah but t’would attract belf players who want druid class. hehe. hurray alliance is saved

Druids do indeed attract players to that race.

Classes I think are virtual certainties for Alliance High Elves:

Warrior
Rogue
Hunter
Mage
Priest

Classes I think make perfect sense and are quite likely for Alliance High Elves:

Paladin
Monk

Classes I think could be added to differentiate Alliance High Elves from Horde Blood Elves but I believe would be unlikely:

Druid
Shaman

Classes I think make sense but might be left out to differentiate Alliance High Elves from Horde Blood Elves:

Demon Hunter
Death Knight

Classes I don’t think make sense for Alliance High Elves:

Warlock

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You should move Monk up there. There are pretty much set stock of basic classes that every race has access to given the generic fantasy role they play.

Warrior Rogue Hunter Monk. DKs are a given as well but will require time and lore reasons to be made.

Agreed.
Further, I don’t think such a focus necessarily removes some classes, such as Paladin.

I haven’t seen this but given how often it is mentioned, it must be pretty prevalent.

How much of it is salt mining against Blood Elf fans vs. an actual desire or opinion?

At first I thought you were mistaken.
But you’re correct.
Summoner Nolric.
So far he seems to be the sole exception (whereas there are multiple High Elf Paladins).
FURTHERMORE --> he is one of the few high elves friendly to the Horde when Dalaran is above Karazhan (but this could be a bug!).

I do agree that whatever class trainers we see in the Silver Covenant that are High Elves, those are the ones that should be available.

Druid and Shaman do have minimal basis for being available.
A lot of it was meant to be a thought experiment on what could be playable if there was a push to try and differentiate the Blood Elves and High Elves more.

My position is that such a move isn’t necessarily a bad idea and there are story ideas that could be pursued to make such choices make sense in the future (given that, lore as it is now, they do not).
However, if not pursued, then the base classes that make the most sense are:
1.) Warrior
2.) Hunter
3.) Mage
4.) Rogue
5.) Paladin
6.) Priest

And
well
unless we find out something saying Summoner Nolric is the SOLE EXCEPTION
I guess Warlock.
I really don’t like the idea of warlock as that seems to go against the grain of one of the BIG REASONS the high and blood elves split. But if he isn’t the exception, then that puts such a preference to be just that — a preference.

You are probably right about monk. I just wanted to err on the side of caution with my list

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While it’s good to be cautious I can with confidence that they would be Monks given every other race can.

It seems I have made an error. Apparently Lightforged Draenei cannot be monks, which is quite possibly the most random race exemption I have ever seen.

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Agreed. It is unfathomably odd for Lightforged to be left out, especially since they have so few class options.

At the very least all of these. Paladin definitely, but I think they should have another Paladin class race combo for the alliance anyway. High elf and Night elf pally :sunglasses:

Depending on the customizations I might be maiming this char or my pally in SL, human customizations have been good, but not as in depth as I would have thought.

And then some people sit back scratch their heads and are surprised so many BE fans tend to be anti HE. That combined with constantly stating their opinions about BEs being on Horde, their opinions they formed solely on ignoring BE story and citing WC2. I don’t believe there is any point on deconstructing BE story, unless one hoped to use it in an argument for neutral BEs, or to push BEs out of things that belong to them down the road when HEs become playable.

And unfortunately it’s people like that, where I would say they should share no common themes what so ever and the ones they can’t help but share be significantly down played.

I think my whole issue is I would take issue at the ideas that center around HEs feeling claim to BE story. And this is why I’d vote for Druid and Shaman over Paladin.

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There’s no way to get around the fact that they will share some things. That’s part of what makes their story interesting. Sharing a history can’t be changed, and they don’t need to be changed to the extent that they have absolutely nothing in common.

So what if if some helf npcs or players want to reclaim quel’thalas? That doesn’t mean it would happen, and an in game attempt to do so would lead to the high elves losing and quel’thalas actually getting updated in the process.

Considering the devs feelings on the horde and the corrupt a wish nature of alliance ars this expac, your worries that the alliance will steal anything from the horde are pretty unfounded.

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Agreed. I do understand and sympathize with the concern, but I don’t see it happening. This seems to be a defensive response based on an intense connection to the Blood Elf storyline.
Which is fine and understandable.

HE’s having Paladin doesn’t mean they have claim to the BE story. In fact, one thing that’s been stated over and over again is the fact that the two types of Paladins are different.
You keep trying to claim otherwise, but the lore is what it is. Just look it up.

Agreed.

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Well I should hope they won’t come true of course. But I don’t think they like any faction better than the other.

I still see their April Fools patch notes as a shout out / recognition so if anything they are listening which is good.