High Elf POSITIVITY Thread šŸ˜Ž

I miss the old Glyphs. They felt more meaningful to the class than how they are now, where they feel more like just customisations on speculations.

Well, afternoon snack for me.

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And here I thought we were respecting opinions :roll_eyes:

Itā€™s my viewpoint Sylvanas isnā€™t evil, it is what it is, we arenā€™t talking about Sylvanas atm, until you brought it up surprisingly the only person to do so more than me.

As to the class support, I do not think requesting Paladins craps on BE story. I think the story overlap will lead to people slowly wanting more of BE story, and as evident by people already crapping on BE story / wanting BE things its my opinion its best to emphasize their differences.

Nah, she is evil. This song sums it up to her

AH!

Thatā€™s the connection.

You see, I didnā€™t understand the connection you were going for earlier.

You would segue into the overall Blood Elf story, and I would just get lost and confused.

HERE THOUGH. You state it more clearly.

ā€¦

I see your opinion. I do respect it. I do in part agree with your concern. That it could lead to infringement.
BUT

Itā€™s a domino effect-type argument.

Those things are hit or miss. You donā€™t know if it will happen, and even if it does, if the Devs will go for it.

Further, itā€™s something that could happen even if they are differentiated as much as possible.


My opinion changes. It is no longer ā€˜Agree to Disagreeā€™.

It is, I see your perspective on this (finally, took a bit), but I think your concerns are unwarranted.
I think if High Elves become playable (regardless of if highly differentiated from Blood Elves or not), their storyline will be VERY different. They will be highly separated.

As a pro-HE player, I would definitely want the storylines separated.

And even though I want to see the Alliance more dominant in the Eastern Kingdoms (and respectively the Horde in Kalimdor), I donā€™t want that to come at the expense of Blood Elves in Silvermoon (nor Night Elves in Ashenvale). I would rather the High Elves re-settle elsewhere in Alliance lands.

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I am merely pointing out double standards. Youā€™re entitled to your opinion, but just as it bothers you to think people might want to steal belf story, it bothers me to see the people wanting the person who murdered thousands of night elves to escape any consequences.

I am saying that wanting people to respect the belf story while having no respect for other stories is hypocritical.

And there really arenā€™t many people wanting to steal stuff from bes.

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If I have to be a shaved Worgen to be a pally Iā€™d do it. :stuck_out_tongue:

Iā€™m thinking of something more drastic, like an entire class skin, Tidesage mages, Dark Iron Fire paladins, Elune paladinsā€¦ect

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That sounds like nightmare fuel.

Unless, during wings, it grows back.

Like a furry version of a Super Saiyan.

That could work out. Purely for laughs. (Sorry!)

That could also work.

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YES
YES
YES!

Fire Pallies please.

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Still, as long as the Alliance get the High Elves that we already have within the Alliance. No more compromises. No more Blood Elves. High Elves!

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If thereā€™s one thing from Vanilla I recall, is that some race-class comboā€™s had unique abilities.

Fear Ward on Dwarf Priests for instance.

Itā€™d be neat to have some of those return in some manner. If they deal damage ā€” just have the damage somehow linked to mastery that way itā€™s easier to scale and balance like any other type of damaging spell in the toolkit. If it doesnā€™t do damageā€¦just try to make it not the SOLE SOURCE of whatever unique buff it provides (such as Fear Ward on Dwarf Priests).

But, who knows, they may have been utterly scrapped for a good reason.


I agree that glyphs and class skins and what not are a good idea.
That could be a way we could get Spellbreakers, Wardens, and some other highly requested classes into the game.
At 12 classes and 36 specsā€¦a lot of different playstyles are covered (and some duplicated).
Much like allied races were highly similar to the core races, a lot of new classes would likely be highly similar to already established ones.
Class skins would be the analog.

Agreed.

While I utterly despise the void elf recruitment story (and the Nightborne one), I do want the Renā€™dorei to have their own unique path and story going forward. I also just want it to be better written than what weā€™ve had so far.

And I definitely still want playable SIlver Covenant Alliance High Elves.

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Well considering on multiple occasions I have told you I respect your view on Sylvanas and you have every right to dislike her, I would say its not me who is upset by / actively attacking an opinion. Just like right now when my opinion is I prefer druids and shamans, I donā€™t actually care others donā€™t and would have Paladins I just disagree :man_shrugging:

And I am saying expecting people to respect the HE story on Alliance, while not speaking up to respect the BE story on Horde is hypocritical.

There are its another one of those things you or others donā€™t speak on. And then people wonder why often times, Pro BE fans are anti HE, and its because anti BE ideas are often supported by HE fans for what ever reason. And I prefer to be Pro HE and Pro BE, and actively so.

To be fair the BE story is the epitome of forcing a square peg into a round hole. That said I have no wish for quelthas or silvermoon high elves I want the silver covenant and thatā€™s what most want from my obeservations.

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My hope for the BE/HE story is still the same. HE get the help of, I dunno, Tyrande to help them launch an attack on Silvermoon as Vesera and Alleria want to drag BElves into the Alliance any way possible

And then the HElves are utterly devastated when they find out that all of Silvermoon is against them the full way. Theyā€™re with the Horde whoā€™s helped them all this time and not the Alliance. HElves return to the Alliance, knowing their homeland is forever lost to them but they will support the Alliance the full way

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Iā€™ve only seen it a couple times, and have objected to it. I want high elves to form their own kingdom, which you very well know. I want them to be distinct from each other, but not to the extent that they canā€™t share a class. Thatā€™s pretty excessive.

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I suspect a big reason they didnā€™t feel like expanding on that (especially recently, given the perfect opportunity to do so), is because they felt that they added the ā€œHigh elf compromiseā€, dusted off their hands and locked the garage door, without thinking they actually had to put effort into a raceā€™s backstory.

In the end itā€™s nothing but a net loss for Void Elves, as theyā€™re left to wait for a bone to be tossed and players still ask for what they actually wanted in the first place.

ESPECIALLY, if after all of that, theyā€™re not even going to use the elves they know we wanted and are actively not heavily involved in any story and then still sprinkling them around the Alliance narrative.

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See I donā€™t really like this idea I said they canā€™t share paladin my original point was they shouldā€™t get Paladin, Shaman, and Druid.

Out of this list, I originally supported 1 and 2.

It was you who got me to decide on preferring Druids, and Shamans. And I arrived at that conclusion by adding my own logic that Paladins seem to add too much possibility to the realm of future infringement on BE story, and that is just my opinion, and where my opinion / voice goes.

My preference is for druid and shaman, but I donā€™t think paladins should be left out or that including them infringes on belves.

And I am also a belf fan.

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I donā€™t like the idea of an attack on Silvermoon lol.

But I do sort of think this should be the overall theme of HEs / especially when creating new areas for them / building up current locations they are already at.

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Oh god no, not at all, no one should be allowed to be that versatile.

Zandalari get a pass because theyā€™re iconicā€¦I guess.

At most it should be 2 of those, Druid being the most unlikely.

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