Well I think more respect should be had for BE lore and story when people try to deconstruct it, so it is what it is. I think a medium should be reached and not all classes should be playable for HEs.
And Paladins canât help their connection to the Sunwell, they are said to be closest aligned to it, and the same would apply to HEs because they are Thalassians, so itâs just a state of being I thought not something they actively turn on and off.
Their magical font is central to Warcraft elveâs culture and society.
I like how it doesnât matter if/how playable high elves could mess with the blood elf story. But dear god, if you dare mess with the story of currently (and probably always) unplayable npcs then thereâs a FIGHT!
Also, slap in the face DRINK!
Playable High Elf Paladins donât deconstruct Blood Elf lore.
Theyâre a separate order.
Being connected to the SunwellâŚno matter how much or littleâŚdoesnât deconstruct Blood Elf lore.
I didnât say they did. You said respect should be had for HE lore. And I said respect should also be had for BE lore and story that people so often deconstruct and disregard.
Then I am not sure what the argument is here.
Because if it doesnât deconstruct the loreâŚthen whatâs the opposition to High Elves having paladin?
It would really enhance how they infringe on the Hordeâs thing.
I think the Sunwell connection to Paladin is closer than any other class. And if the Sunwell narrative is to be moved away from Paladin should be the class that doesnât make it to playable HEs because they canât help how connected they are to the Sunwell.
Where as other classes may be connected but it can be downplayed or just other parts of stories told like mages, and Highvale elves, etc.
This really needs to be referenced at this point. As Iâm not buying it as more than opinion and bad memory (mine included btw) at this point.
Further, even if the Sunwell narrative is moved away from â there are HUman paladins. And dwarf paladins.
They are just as powerful as Blood Elf paladins.
And they (humans & dwarves) donât have the Sunwell.
Means their faith and willpower are sufficient.
You know what strong willpower means? How about being able to get over magic addiction. That person has a strong willpower.
Definitely one who can command the light â even without the Sunwell.
So even IF the intense Sunwell connection to Blood Elf paladins is a thingâŚit still doesnât invalidate High Elf paladins.
And they STILL do not dispresect or deconstruct Blood Elf lore.
Yeah, not buying that.
HEs are Thalassian and all Thalassians barring VEs have a connection to the Sunwell.
So I think Paladin are most closely in tune with the Sunwell whether they actively want to or not.
This does not invalidate High Elf Paladins. The connection being there or not. Further we still need to reference this whole intense connection to the Sunwell for Paladins thing.
it does not infringe upon Blood Elf Paladins either.
Okay okay okay â I just looked it up.
This intense connection to the Sunwell?
Itâs specific to the Blood Knights. So specifically to the Blood Elf paladins.
High Elf Paladins operate at ânormalâ connection to the Sunwell. From there, they rely on faith. The Blood Elves rely more heavily on their connection to the Sunwell.
Check Wowpedia and such.
So Iâm going to say it again â the two donât step on each other or disrespect the lore for each other.
At all.
They are different enough.
The story of the Sunwell should be moved on from for HEs. The connection being there is what it is but for especially Paladins I think they wouldnât be able to help but have a strong connection to the Sunwell more so than others.
And we already see people blatantly disregarding BE story. Assuming Quelâthalas should be shared. Some people even think moving BEs to be neutral isnât any how insulting to BE players at all. So the less story they share the better. And if Paladins are so closely in tune with the light they manifested golden eyes first, their connection to the Sunwell canât be helped and Iâd rather not give any lee way to people infringing on BE story because that leads to them wanting BE land, and BE narratives, and it all stems from a disrespect of BE story because their mad they are Horde and choose to ignore why they went Horde.
And we often find ourselves emphasizing the differences between them. So I donât see anything wrong with when push comes to shove, standing by what we say and emphasizing their differences between them. Play up the Highvale connection, cut the class most in tune with the Sunwell, etc.
You still arenât getting it.
The Blood Elf Blood Knights rely on that connection.
Just read the lore (I literally just looked it up).
The High Elves donât. They rely on their faith in the Light.
Literally, I just looked this up. This is not speculation anymore. Just go read WoWhead, WoWpedia, etc. and check their sources.
Blood Knights? Yeah, intense connection to the sunwell for their power. Faith is simply supplementary.
High Elf Paladins? The reverse.
But the donât share a story as Paladins/Priest at all.
They share it with Humans/Dwarves because itâs the exact same type.
People wanting to take quelâthalas has no bearing at all on rather or not they can be Paladins because they already are and itâs already a completely separate thing from the Blood Elves.
Why in the world would they research how to give people an insane voice in their head constantly tempting them to misuse their power and possibly mess up the ritual letting a bunch of ethereals lose.
Thank you.
This whole disrespecting BElf lore thing was kinda throwing me for a loop for a bit.
If Paladins donât disrespect the lore, whatâs the objection?
If the objection is other miscellaneous things â then thatâs a separate argument.
For me? No, I donât think they should share Quelâthalas. I think the High Elves should settle elsewhere.
But cutting the chord so thoroughly as to literally cut away from the LightâŚand that religionâŚwhich so far in game is certainly NOT THE CASE for high elves â no I reject that. The Blood Elves moved away from it, certainly. That is in THEIR story.
But the High Elves didnât.
Itâs okay if they have Shamans or DruidsâŚbut they arenât losing Paladin for either is my vote.
But all Thalassians have a connection to the Sunwell.
I also felt Holy made sense as the dominant force in the Sunwell, actively influencing things, where as arcane never is shown to be so dominant or actively wanting to influence things, as to why I thought Blue Eyed Blood Elves wouldnât make sense to me if Holy is the dominant force.
And youâre telling me the most holy of holy classes the paladin, would then not have an intricate connection to the Sunwell? All Thalassians do, but especially paladins, and I donât think they can help their strong connection to the Sunwell its just a state of being.
So in sticking by emphasizing their differences, I think the class that would be most touched by the Sunwell, should be the class out of Druid Shaman and Paladin, that gets cut. Because out of those three 2 emphasize the different narrative path HEâs can take, and one doesnât.
Dear lordâŚthe Blood ELf paladin connection is more intense ON PURPOSE. They purposefully do that to themselves.
The high elf paladin one is based on FAITH.
But their all Thalassian so why would HE paladins pick and choose the strength of their connection to the Sunwell?