Aside from the whole should alliance get them or not. They really do NOT need to add another elf only class, thatâs just kinda obnoxious to the people who like other races to add even more elf-only nonsense to the game.
I donât really like the idea of especially new classes being so race exclusive. Death Knight and Monk are a good example of how it should be. Not every race should be able to be the class but a good majority should be able to be the new class. Kinda like monks.
And frankly, if they were to add in more racially restricted classes, Iâd rather they give it to the lower pop. races, give some reason to play them over the ones who are already popular.
I vote Dark Ranger for everyone then.
But I am more hoping for the undead customization for BEs⊠maybe NEs too will be added who knows. Regardless Iâve seen people think if added itâll be hunter class exclusive which I doubt because their comments on Golden eyes was if you want to play as a BE cleansed by the Sunwell then you can- or something to that effect iirc.
I donât know they files they place them in can change no? Thereâs been no official statement from ion saying no that doesnât make sense, the way he commented on blue eyed BEs. So I think for now I remain hopeful itâs TBA customizations.
I agree. The next race specific class should be Tinker with Gnomes and goblins.
Iâm more on the side of opening up DHs to a few more races and just not having any more single race per side classes. I donât think weâll ever be in a spot where blizz can keep juggling balancing classes if they get tried to make enough so that each race could be paired off and have their own. But, say they did make tinkers, have the goblins and gnomes take lead, but itâs not a big thing to say that members of other races with mechanical aptitude could go off and learn from them to spread the class out more.
And you donÂŽty think itÂŽs kinda wrong to make claims over how corrct or incorrect lore is when you yourself used nothing but your own incomplete knowledge as a measure tool?
Well, at least we all know now the root of the problem regarding you on particular⊠no wonder you wildly ignore entire portions of the lore; fact is you arenÂŽt even interested in expanding the knowledge; only on fulfilling your narrowminded PoVâŠ
Nah, man. There are already too much available classes for Belves and while Dark Ranger maybe could be acceptable from a lore PoV (theyÂŽre certainly not Belfy-Belfy; more like a Forsaken proper thing thanks to the long Sylvanas affiliation) there are other races that need the focus and development more urgently (all things considered, Belves are VERY OK in regards to playerbase population).
I want a mail wearing class that has a heal spec and isnât just melee.
I would like to see a blend between a hunter and a mage as a class.
It was however they still have a history of working together. Shandris fought in the troll wars.
unfortunately tinker is the only class left that would fit with that.
Bards, necromancers, and dragonsworn would be readily available to most if not all races.
Agreed.
As for your earlier post, no wood elves and dark elves are different archetypes. In Norse FantasyâŠthe dark elves were actually âdwarvesâ, but thatâs neither here nor there. Later on, they became their own archetype, most notably in Forgotten Realms D&D, but also in Warhammer Fantasy, of actual elf.
Wood Elves on the other hand have always been a separate archetype more in line with celtic fairies mixed with some Norse myths. The archetypal high elves are in line with the Norse Light Elves.
From there, thanks to D&D, we get all crazy amount of types of elves based on various archetypes and fairies from mythology (aquatic elves, winged elves, sun and moon elves, you name it).
I agree that neither the lore for the BEâs on Horde or the HEâs on Alliance invalidate the other.
It was an obvious split in their society after a MASSIVE trauma to their kingdom, culture, and quite frankly to them as a species. How they handled it from there is what defined them going forward. Their choices afterward are based simultaneously on this shared trauma and their initial choices afterwards on what to do about it. Other events that occurred afterwards obviously also play a part in influencing those decisions, but those subsequent events have not yet defined them as a people (barring a few exceptions like the purge of Dalaran and mana-bomb creation).
Agreed this is something that gets misunderstood a LOT.
Alliance Quelâdorei we agree in I support them being playable on Alliance separate from BEs.
Agreed. Blood Elves have the same intense survival at all costs mentality of the Horde. On the surface they look different, but deep down they are more similar to their Horde allies.
The High Elves took a different road that have them more in line with the Alliance.
- Blood Elves where never going to be an Alliance race as they where intended to be Villains in Outland who went off the deep end.
- The playable Blood Elves where retconned in for Horde to play. These where also never going to be Alliance because they didnât exist until they wanted them in the Horde.
- Yes it makes sense for the Blood Elves to join Horde with Sylvanas and the betrayals but those where written in after the fact. So itâs okay to be a bit salty that the lore was a bit twisted to give the Alliance a âVillain Batâ moment but it does not change that it is the established lore.
- High Elves where not part of of this group both because they did not exist until retconned and because they where already defined groups. So it has no bearing in rather High Elves did or will become playable. If you want High Elves, ask for High Elves.
Agreed.
This Vulpera likes the idea of seeing High Elves in the Alliance
Well, people asked âwhat does the fox sayâ and here is the answer.
Blood elves are fine in the horde and itâs not like it can be changed anyway.
We just need alliance high elves playable.
Definitely. That would be very nice.
And that aesthetic gives way for a different one for Alliance High Elves.
What do you think would be a good aesthetic for them that respects their heritage as Thalassian Elves, their place in the Alliance (and I guess also history with Dalaran), while at the same time pushing them in a new direction?
Night elf paladins would be an awesome take. I would level one yesterday.
I donât have a strong opinion on high elf paladins,
Night Elf Paladins would make sense.
I would like to see High Elf Paladins. It makes too much sense for them to also have Paladins.
Also â some trainers with the Silver covenant like Rulen Lightsreap are Paladins.
Arator is a half-elf and also a Paladin like his father.
So I would definitely want to see High Elf pallies. Potentially, when added, have a few hanging in Stormwind around the cathedral of light.
If we ever re-take Gilneas, I would like to see a few hanging with the Worgen in their big Light Chapel in the Gilnean capital.
And I think Stromgarde also has a mage tower and chapel. So, Iâd like to a see few High Elf mages and Pallies / Priests in those areas respectively.
Given that theyâd be added after Legion, they donât have to be in Lights Hope Chapel (save for established ones like Rulen Lightsreap) Paladin class hall.
What do you think would be a good aesthetic for them that respects their heritage as Thalassian Elves, their place in the Alliance (and I guess also history with Dalaran), while at the same time pushing them in a new direction?
That all depends how the push the Alliance High Elf story, Druidism is my favorite option at the moment, as i like to imagine bulkier High Elves more connected to nature.
Another could be shamanism.
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That all depends how the push the Alliance High Elf story, Druidism is my favorite option at the moment, as i like to imagine bulkier High Elves more connected to nature.
Another could be shamanism.
Well this does go back to connecting to their heritage as Thalassian elves and close connection to Dalaran.
That is far more in line with arcane magic, with a dip into holy magic with Priests and Pallies.
While they certainly had hunters and rangers and the like, they werenât as full blown wood elf as say the Night Elves (the druidism + shamanism + more nature aesthetics youâre going for)
So what would push them so far towards this aspect?
Super close relationship with the Wildhammers?
So what would push them so far towards this aspect?
Super close relationship with the Wildhammers?
Oddly enough the Quelâlithien Elves are right next to an Emerald Dreamway and are also buddy buddy with Draenei AND Wildhammer Shamans, so Druid, Paladin, and Shamanism are viable options.
I wouldnât care if HEs got shamans idk about Druids though thatâs just my feeling on it. And I would be opposed to them getting Warlock, I think thatâs more an inherently BE class, nothing says they canât be warlock but I mean Zandalari didnât get it either, and HEs seem a bit uncomfortable with Fel all things considered.
Since nightborne mirror belf in theme while giving the horde a different aesthetic, I feel high elves could do the same. Maybe they end up getting closer to night elves, and end up learning to be druids. They do also have close ties to wildhammer, so the shaman connection is there.
As it relates to all of the subgroups having their own⊠flavor, this would make High Elves the only variety that has some sort of inherent connection with the elements.
Food for thought.
I never really see people pushing for high elven warlocks.