High Elf POSITIVITY Thread 😎

[Saraslam-frostmourne]

There wouldn’t be a need for compromise if Void Elves didn’t exist, but thanks to the rushed development of allied races they’re what we got.

Yeah, but think about it,

it still doesn’t need to be a compromise. We already have Quel’dorei within our ranks. They have been with us since Vanilla, and there is more of them getting added every expansion.

[Abendroth-zuljin (Abendroth)]

Oh yeah let us not forget about the VERY important portal maintenance guy.

He’s so important.

[Leinadh-stormrage]

hoping even the other devs saw the HE request go away with VEs (it didn’t)…

On the contrary - it exploded, as they invalidated every single argument against HE’s being playable with the addition of Void Elves.

[Leinadh-stormrage]

Oh yeah let us not forget about the VERY important portal maintenance guy.

He’s so important.

At least there’s a HE portal keeper. There are 0 Void Elf portal keepers iirc.

[Saraslam-frostmourne]

Hey, don’t you dare dis Groundskeeper Willy.

[Tarrok-thorium-brotherhood (Tarrok)]

[Saraslam-frostmourne]

I was not expecting that

GGWP

[Abendroth-zuljin (Abendroth)]

No, they are too busy being enemies in island expeditions and horrific visions, you know, where they actually matter.

[Itoldyouso-illidan]

It isn’t even just about Classic. There are other examples too. Like on the top of my head, I recall Ion mentioning Zandalari druids not having dino forms for cat and bear. Yet here we are today.

That is again, false equivalency.
Creating new forms for an already existing race/class =/= copy pastaing an already existing race.

Your request for high elves doesn’t work because it goes against the design philosophy they established.

1. Copy pasta races don’t go to the other faction.
2. If you want that theme, you go to the appropriate faction
3. Factions need to be unique in what they offer.

Your demand goes againt all three. Hence, I cannot agree to the high elf request. Roll a blood elf if you wish to play that race.

You are in the habit of telling us what to do lately and I’m going to politely ask you to stop this.

You are in the habit of telling us what to do lately and I’m going to politely ask you to stop this. You are not a forum moderator, this post has been approved by a moderator. So take your own advice and go to your own discord if you want a negative debate on playable High Elves. Or your other TWO threads YOU opened (speaking of filling space).

Clearly we are speaking two different languages if you think taking my own advice means leaving a thread. Here, I’ll make it simple for you so you can understand, because you’ve grown increasingly obnoxious.

People will disagree with you. Get over it. You want a safe place, go to discord.

Sorry, not bouncing out the thread just because you want an echo chamber. That is following my own advice Leinadh.

If you don’t want

Cool story bro, where did I make such a statement? Or are you just making things up in your head?
I am stating you, and several other helfers, have no ability to say who can, and who cannot post, nor what they can or cannot post. Take your own advice sometime.

Or maybe people just wanna talk about High Elves without having to handle with toxicity and pointless excuses and debates.

Or maybe, you should stick to a discord if you don’t want public commentary.
Telling people not to leave and not disagree with you is toxic. The desire to exclude others is not only immature, but damaging to your cause. Stick to your discord next time.

[Itoldyouso-illidan]

I would have to say they are the nail in the coffin. I believe Ion was discussing the Allied Races and stated High elves were there, but they decided against it due to design decisions. Clearly, they consider the design more important over people’s desire to follow the typical trope of “elves work with humans and dwarves!”.

[Saraslam-frostmourne]

Or maybe, you should stick to a discord if you don’t want public commentary.

Thanks for proving that you just want to jump in any thread and cause toxicity.

[Itoldyouso-illidan]

Yes, how dare I view a subject with a different view. Moderators shouldn’t let people have differing views from the OP. /s

Again, if you desire your topic to be free of dissenting views, use your discord. I am puzzled as to the creation of this topic if you find it so distressing.

[Avarie-farstriders]

oh that’s a good one. The joke mobs in island expeditions matter!

SNEAKY PEEETE!

[Dorp-emerald-dream]

Copy pasta races don’t go to the other faction.

I’ve said this to you a few times now.

No one is asking for a copy pasta.
What were asking for is the current alliance high elves.
This argument would only apply if there weren’t any high elves.

If you want that theme, you go to the appropriate faction

What theme? The theme of high elves already being alliance? Making it a perfectly suitable playable AR option?

Factions need to be unique in what they offer.

First of all, theyd stay unique as high elves are clearly opposed to high elves, not sure where you’ve been for the last 10 years.

Secondly, you’re not entitled to what factions have to be, stop.

Your demand goes againt all three

Like I said, stop behaving like this, you’re not entitled to what people get to request on the forums. Especially considering the above fact: that the very high elves being requested are already alliance affiliated

[Saraslam-frostmourne]

No, stop. You’re the one telling us to stick to our Discord. And it is like your comment a few post earlier

don’t go to a public forum and complain when negativity comes in.

It only get negative when people go at each other with insults and toxic behaviour. Threads like these can be avoided of negative behaviour, but as you Anti’s have proven to everyone else on the forums, you don’t want to keep that negative out, you just want to add that negative in.

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But no, according to you Anti’s, us Pro’s are the toxic people and the trolls on the forums. Or as Murg said, “you’re like like every other pro thinking that anti’s are selfiish jerks”.

[Lannisteros-proudmoore]

I’m choosing to concentrate on the ideas and art posts or at least people holding a conversation as opposed to speaking at people. Part of being on a public forum is also exercising an ability to ignore people and that is perfectly fine and acceptable in circumstances.

I’m still blown away by the art Drede shared someone did it looks like a page that belongs on the wow website explaining the race, I just adore that one!

[Itoldyouso-illidan]

I’ve said this to you a few times now.

No one is asking for a copy pasta.
What were asking for is the current alliance high elves.
This argument would only apply if there weren’t any high elves.

I understand your view on the matter, but you need to consider that both blood elves and high elves are the same race design wise. So while they are different in terms of lore, from a game design perspective, they are defined as being the same. This overarching design perspective takes precedence over the lore.

What theme? The theme of high elves already being alliance? Making it a perfectly suitable playable AR option?

The theme of the race being playable, you roll Horde. So no, unfortunately, its not a perfectly suitable AR option. Let alone AR"s aren’t even some new fangled thing.
They are literally a race option behind a rep grind. Nothing special.

First of all, theyd stay unique as high elves are clearly opposed to high elves, not sure where you’ve been for the last 10 years.

Secondly, you’re not entitled to what factions have to be, stop.

Firstly, no, they would not be unique as they are the same race as blood elves. You’re not adding anything new to the game. It doesn’t add in any healthy way to the game’s design.

Secondly, you’re not entitled to what factions have to be, stop.

Yep. It is a Horde race first, and that sets precedence for the design. Otherwise, by your logic, we might a well make humans playable on the Horde. It is not a healthy way to design the game if any different lore group made for story, is used to justify playability.

Like I said, stop behaving like this, you’re not entitled to what people get to request on the forums. Especially considering the above fact: that the very high elves being requested are already alliance affiliated

Nope.
I am perfectly entitled to oppose you on the matter. Just as you are entitled to request something. You cannot expect to be respected on your request, but demand someone else’s request not be respected. It is hypocritical to act in such a manner.

No, stop

Nope.

You’re the one telling us to stick to our Discord. And it is like your comment a few post earlier

That is a strawman. Maybe you should read the entire post.
I’ll simplifyit for you like I did Leinadh.

If you don’t want public disagreement. Stick to a discord. Otherwise, deal with people disagreeing with you..

It only get negative when people go at each other with insults and toxic behaviour.

Like you’re doing right now by telling me to “shut up and not say anything that disagrees with you?”.

But no, according to you Anti’s, us Pro’s are the toxic people and the trolls on the forums. Or as Murg said, “you’re like like every other pro thinking that anti’s are selfiish jerks”.

I think its a pretty accurate to say about pros when the past couple of posts I responded to literally say

You are toxic for disagreeing with us in a public forum.
The funny part is none of you are even denying the fact you’re trying to silence others.

[Dorp-emerald-dream]

Some subraces are customization and some are their own separate race.

What makes me nervous is the fact that ARs are unlikely to get new customizations (or just straight up fixes in the nightbornes case)

[Avarie-farstriders]

Give in to the high elf love, you can do it!

[Drede-cairne (Drede)]

@Lannisteros-proudmoore

I’m still blown away by the art Drede shared someone did it looks like a page that belongs on the wow website explaining the race, I just adore that one!

Its @ Hipnos14 on twitter. He also made another for Broken and Mok’nathal.

Hipnos