Yeah it is highly possible that the request for High Elves made them take a closer look on the Blue Eye issue and what it means to actually be a Blood Elf.
But it was apparent from the start why these things where the way they where.
Blood Elves underwent massive changes in population, culture, magic, and identity.
Itâs also possible that the main supporters of Blue Eyes where also heavily against High Elves and the entire request might have been perceived as a troll against High Elf supporters.
I tend to think all of the above.
Itâs the top 2 powers in the WoW universe.
https://i.imgur.com/VsOdNOu.jpg
Iâm so glad he said this.
Part of the problem was people wanting to pretend Blood Elves where exactly the same as they always had been. That they did not grow or change as a people.
As someone who grew up thinking how awesome it was that Kaelâthas took his people to a barren world and plunged headlong against a demonic enemy to try and forge a new destiny for his people.
Iâm glad that people will now see that Blood Elves are Blood Elves and if youâre a fan of them, your a fan of how they changed.
This was said better than I ever could! I really vastly prefer BEs so I tend to dislike arguments that some use for HEs by deconstructing BEs as a narrative / culture. But I think this really says it nicely.
And I love how HEs encompass so much of how they didnât change, and it basically fits a more traditional elf story for those that like that.
Iâve mentioned this before;
Iâve been playing on RP servers since I started playing.
Until recently, if you played a blue-eyed Blood Elf, youâd be getting some major scorn leading into upright heckling. It was considered lore-breaking by the community on a larger scale. And this was on both Moon Guard and Wyrmrest Accord; both servers had negative reactions to my own blue eyed elf and to others.
And I knew it was going to spur IC reactions, but OOC? People were petty towards people playing âhigh elvesâ on Horde. (Even if they didnât label themselves as such.)
You can still probably dig back on profile roasting blogs and find people pointing out eye color as a reasoning for being âbadâ.
Honestly I like that the starting dichotomy is Horde/Alliance, itâs about two super powers in a cold war, so I get why thatâs the starting status quo; what I would love for it is to evolve given the constant global and cosmic threats we suffer lol.
Something like this is what I would like, although given the hard Horde/Alliance division it would have to start by you going independent to unlock earning opposite faction reps, and maybe the moment you do earn rep for one you lose with the other, kinda like with Aldor and Scryers; and also, you can prevent yourself from earning either horde or alliance rep altogether, functioning like a mercenary, based on neutral territory, but maybe you actually get to enter all settlements, but unable to take quests marked explicitly horde or alliance.
I am happy to hear the new information about the eyes. It helps solidify what I have been saying for a while now. It certainly feels like a step in the right direction. Alliance Quelâdorei still have a chance, and this new information about Blood Elves evolution will help separate them even more in times to come. Iâll keep supporting until they become a reality for Alliance or until the game ends.
What step? Its literally nothing has changed except the possibly isnt getting yeeted into the dumpster. You guys really read into these things too muchâŠ
I donât know how you got there. Ionâs words before were so incredibly important to the anti-high elf fans when he tongue-in-cheek said theyâre the same race, but now that heâs confirmed they are totally distinct races and reiterated that theyâre still open to adding high elves later, people are âreading into it too muchâ?
Indeed, my main want is Dark Rangers, but i do feel like I can get that through also Sanâlayn and Venthyr. I speak as someone that thinks of this VE as a HE; It would be better if he didnât look blue, and it would be better for more BE Hunter Dark Ranger to look less pink. I donât need the specific AR/Customization combo, I just need something closer.
Actually wanting a sort of independent/third faction gameplay is kinda opposite or at least appart to my desire for High Elves, this one is mostly about the limitations of the faction system and how it affects the story. I like High Elves specifically because how they fit the strengths of the faction dichotomy.
Itâs just that sometimes it doesnât makes sense for some groups to be playable on the H/A system and it kinda sucks thatâs the end all be all of playability -like for example, Arakkoa and now the SL races, also Ethereal, and many more.
Otherwise, in terms of player choice, I think my fourth want would be more leeway when it comes to choose faction, that the choice is more meaningful and we are not forced to it by race, because what I like about the factions, and HEâs is the choice to follow one side. Itâs true in universe, but gameplay prevents it. And it would be fun to think what other groups would have âcrossoverâ potential.
Were they? I just found it funny. Iâve made my previous post history known about Ion (I dont particularly listen to him, and rather see results); but this is a rather interesting point you take:
So if someone agreed with something X said in the past, they arent allowed to disagree with it?
Fascinating rhetoric. Also, wouldnt this be counter active to the ideologyâŠwhere people said Ion didnt know anything from the other side when he said âblood elves are basically high elvesâ? Dont you kind of kill your own point?
No they didnt. Where in that questioning did Ion say or allude to that?
You are, because you said Ion âreiteratedâ that theyâre still open to adding high elves later whenâŠthe words âhigh elfâ was not even said by Ion at all.
All we know is:
Blue eyes are not going to blood elves
People suck at datamining
They belong to NPCs.
So unless you have a specific time in the twitch VOD where he says that (I would be happy to listen to it and readjust my statement), you are jumping the page so hard.
Essentially, nothing has changed for the community. You have gone from a massive net negative to nothingâŠthats all. You guys need to stop going full Bellular sometimes.
Well, âŠthat was oddly adorable. Like an angry puppy. 