What does the happiness of the Hordes player base with BE’s have to do with an Alliance request for Thalassian HE’s on their side? How are you pushing the Alliance oriented HE request onto BE players where are you making that jump, and why LOL?
Again Alliance players don’t represent BE players which is a huge player base so why are you pushing that as their narrative when its your narrative you wish they had maybe but other than that…
Again with the name calling but okay, to what extent you said right there players specifically after I specified BE players, have been polled about overall happiness about Blood Elves, which has nothing to do with other peoples desire to play an Alliance affiliated Thalassian.
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Is this a VE request thread about hair or your rhetoric against BE’s? Maybe you could edit the OP to make it more clear.
Well you and I have a pretty different sense of what makes an in-depth arc, and they’re negligible contributions are largely out of game and unknown. Draenei got a real story and it was lightyears ahead of this trivial crap.
Yes, they were written out to become Legion followers, but then we found out that Elves in the north still lived. Sadly they were toss over to the Horde for the sake a cheap plot twist and giving Horde nerds something pretty to look at. Yeah, some story. THey’re so compatible with the Horde that they needed the Alliance to save their Sunwell.
Well that’s not a bad idea for when I gear up and go Horde hunting eventually.
(Statement): Thank you for providing a source. It’s not a poll, but it’s still a source for the Q&A at least.
(Commentary): What you’re offering is conjecture. I’m not saying it isn’t likely to be incorrect, mind you, but you’re still making your own interpretation rather than providing concrete evidence that what you say is factual. There is a difference between a fact and an opinion. You’re not the first person, or the last, to present an opinion as a fact either unintentionally or otherwise, so don’t feel bad.
(Commentary): Unfortunately it is quite literally a matter of equity. The goal was to bring the High Elf aesthetic to both races. Blood Elves have many options which overlap with that, while Void Elves had virtually none. This is why Void Elves received so many new skin tones, on top of blue eyes. It is literally a matter of equity. If it was about equality, then Blood Elves would’ve received all Void Elf skin tones at the same time.
(Commentary): Oh no, it’s still equitable. It’s not equal, but it’s equitable. The two words do not mean the same thing. Something can be equal but unequitable, and something can be equitable but unequal.
(Analogy): Let’s say a family goes to a bike store to buy bikes. Dad is fat, Mom has unusually long legs, your 13 year old brother is wheelchair bound, and your sister is 3. Equal in this case would be buying everyone the exact same bike. Equitable would be buying a bike with longer reach to the pedals for mom, a tricycle for your sister, a bike where you use your hands to pedal for your brother, etc…
(Commentary): That is where the matter of equality and equity comes in with Void Elves and Blood Elves regarding, specifically the matter of High Elf aesthetic. It’s not equal. They did not get the same brand new options. But it is equitable. They both have a much better representation of the High Elf aesthetic.
it’s cool to see Antis still don’t have any real arguments against this inclusion and would rather just express their take on the matter through gifs.
Blizzard literally said these new options represent High Elves, so it’s perfectly reasonable to ask for this last little bit. We’re not taking anything away from anyone by giving Velves natural hair colours
You only come to throw shade at people and everybody knows it, so it’s funny to see you continue to try and police people for being not as bad as you are.
I am well aware of what the word means. I’m also aware that you are basing this on a view of the situation that ignores the inequitable treatment that has already happened in order to frame additional gifts as equitable.
Void Elves being given a non fantasy set of skin tones has set them apart from all other races in their own inequitable category. Is there any other race that has both a fantasy and a set of human realistic skin tones in the game?
And you keep bringing up the various simplified equity/equality examples (what, not going to do the boxes and watching a baseball game over a fence one, that’s the classsic?) But if you wanted to quibble over my pie example, none of yours apply to the situation exactly either. I mean, it’s more like and one sibling got the glowy tentacle covered bike, but because they complained, they also got a bike that was almost the same as their sibling’s but since they already had one bike it didn’t have the nicer reflectors, bell and other accessories that bike had.
(Statement): We’re not talking about other races. We’re talking about Void Elves, Blood Elves, and the High Elf aesthetic.
(Commentary): If you want to start a new discussion about whether it is equitable that Void Elves received customization options for an existing fantasy race that also happen to be representative of real life appearances for humans, then you’re welcome to do that. However, that is not what I have been discussing when bringing up how the new customization in specific regards to Void Elves and Blood Elves getting High Elf aesthetics are equitable.
And the problem is that straight up that situation is not equitable. Void Elves being given high elf options has taken equity off the table for the time being.
(Commentary): Except this is not the case. Void Elves and Blood Elves have been given High Elf options. It is equitable. Mostly. Once Void Elves receive the appropriate hair colors, styles, etc… we will have reached a satisfactory level of equity.
As far as the disproportionate amount of options that Blood Elves and Void Elves goes, I believe it was to give both races the High Elf fantasy.
Now Blood Elves were a lot closer, which is why they recieved blue eyes, while they gave the whole Blood Elf skin pallete to Void Elves to bring them closer to the High Elf fantasy, ergo Void Elves had a farther way to go which is why they were given more options.
Another reason that Blood Elves only got blue eyes is that was like because that what was predominantly asked for prior to the Shadowlands updates to parallel the High Elf requests for Alliance/Void Elves so that’s what was given.
I myself as a Blood Elf player asked for runic tattoos, violet eyes and such though I felt I was in the minority at the time.
That’s not to say that Blood Elves don’t deserve tattoos, violet eyes and a secondary visual theme, it’s just that these concepts never really caught fire until recently, which is why I believe the Void Elf stuff came first, which would be timing.
I also feel like they’re ‘saving the best for last’ like they did in WoD.
Tldr; I believe Blood Elves are missing out due to crappy timing/time management.
This is pointless, you’re just labelling any of the excess desires you have as ‘equity’. You keep acting like you can handwave the fact that Blizz favored the void elves as not being part of this and confine the conversation to how we can make the extra stuff they got more like the blood elves’ stuff in an equitable way.
