I can speak freely thank you very much. Just because i want more void option? I hate horde in game. Thats why i dont care about blood elves. I know we were once them but i like void elf and i want more option like ethereal and claws not normal skintans.
Again, I frankly don’t care if I’m “rude” to a bully. They are a bully. They lost my respect long ago.
Many people have and they just continue acting that way towards multiple people.
Luckily I blocked/muted them from here months ago so there has been no cycle for a while now.
I get where you are coming from but I’m not going to play nice with a bully 
My principles go against that. That’s like saying you should be tolerant of other people’s intolerance. No thanks.
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I would like to point out that the likely reason Blood Elves haven’t gotten a lot of significant updates is the same reason they where likely left out of the WoD update.
They are already popular so the developers feel like they can leave them out/for latter.
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Like I said originally, those are a few scattered exiles that stuck around when Quel’thalas was sacked by the Scourge. They aren’t a cohesive race. They are a fractured group of homeless elves who stuck to the Alliance when they had nowhere else to go.
And the reps you are talking about are tied to the Silver Covenant who are Alliance-friendly members of Dalaran, a neutral city. They only got lumped in as the Alliance reps in Wotlk, and then again during the Isle of Thunder campaign when Jaina took over the Kirin Tor and tried to make Dalaran a member of the Alliance.
Blizzard being wishy-washy in game when the actual lore states that there are 7.5 high elves left in the Alliance is what created this problem. They should have fixed it before it got out of hand instead of continuing to invent High Elf NPCs when canonically, there are none. There should be High Elves in Dalaran, a few sprinkled around the world, and then the Blood Elves. Most of the High Elf remnants should have returned to Silvermoon the minute the Sunwell was reignited. That would have prevented all of this. Two quick sentences in the lore, but nope.
It was stupid on their part.
No, it’s more rude when a troll comes in here distorting what I’m saying and slandering me. He cuts parts of the paragraph out and takes everything out of context. He’s a troll on an alt, and liar, that’s not an attack it’s a fact.
Wrong, they already bent over by placing them on the Horde. They only did it for the horde to have a pretty race even though it made little sense.
I do have a source if you read.
The troll is getting the same level respect he’s giving, so quit pretending like you care. If someone comes in here being disrespectful and LYING flat out then he’s gonna get a mouthful. You don’t like it, then don’t read it.
Its your own thread you’re killing with that toxicity, try not name calling, you’re too pressed over Elves, and all the opinions I take issue with you have no sources for, poor takes your pushing as fact, like its really rather straightforward.
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Agreed, and you’re awesome for this comment
Except…if Blizzard writes the lore…and is in charge of what’s canon…and they make High Elfs a more significantly populated force in the Alliance…then the canon is that. Correct?
Stupid is a subjective opinion, but the fact is that they did it, no?
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Oh dry your eyes, you’re the toxic one here and not taking responsibility. By all means, keep posting your nonsense. You make yourself look stupid and you keep the thread going.
(Commentary): This is your perception of events. I assure you, Lannisterian is not a troll. He is passionate about Blood Elves, and sometimes he may get carried away, but no more than the rest of us. That having been said, addressing a specific part of a post is the norm for discourse. If you cannot provide a source, or if they misunderstand the intent of your words, it is on you to correct that.
(Advice): If you feel someone is a troll, adding them to ignore will do you a world of good.
(Commentary): A source would be in the form of a link to a thread, interview, article, video, etc… I haven’t seen any at this time.
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I’ve been trying not to call things petty too quickly because I’ve been criticized for it in the past, but your analogy with the toys does present a compelling argument.
But even if it does qualify as “petty”, those people still feel bad about sharing, and thus are having a negative experience because of it.
I’m not going to get into the merits of whether that negative experience deserves addressing or not, I just want it to be on record that I acknowledge it and am not just flippantly disregarding the feelings of those on the other side of the issue.
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Source was already provided. The Q&A for BFA
Use your logic circuits, WHY would Blizzard go to all the trouble to make a silly Void Elf knockoff if fans hadn’t made High Elves and issue? Why would there be THOUSANDS of threads about this over the years??? Why would it be on the Q&A for an entire expansion?? Think for a second: The fact that it came up on the Q&A for BFA is the proof that there is a HUGE backing for High Elves. Only the biggest most anticipated ideas come up on there, so yes that is proof to anyone with half a brain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUik9-2ygS8&t=2880s&ab_channel=WorldofWarcraft
The lore hasn’t changed. There are a few High Elves in Stormwind. There are a few Sons of Lothar High Elf Outposts in Outland. Then there are the Silver Covenant who are NOT a part of the Alliance.
They couldn’t even justify High Elves becoming Void Elves, they had to exile a group of Blood Elves from Quel’thalas who were dabbling in Void magic just to make it viable.
I think it would have been much more logical and fair to put an end to the High Elf debate by stating, quite clearly, “There are no more ‘High Elves.’” Ion came close with “If you want a High Elf, the Horde is there for you.” But as long as a few dozen NPCs exist, people will keep wanting Blood Elf assets moved to the Alliance Void Elves and that makes me angry because my race is getting copied over for people who just can’t stand not having something.
I’m asking for a source that you stated players were polled and unhappy with Blood Elves.
Here you said
They don’t belong on the faction they are on.
I asked you where are you getting this from basically who subscribes to this? Because I’m pressing x to doubt on it being actual BE fans / players.
You said the players have been polled on the issue I was asking about I assume, but now you’re switching it up to be some sort of “Yes the Alliance HE community exists and wants HE’s” and thats not what I was asking about.
So in other words to quote another poster in a conversation with you ~
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if they gave? That’s what blood elves ARE.
The problem is mainly cloaking it in the language of equity. It may feel to you that it is equitable, but to the other side it is anything but. As I said, it feels as if you’re just taking one side of the argument and declaring that that is how it should be, and any discussion of bringing out further options should start at that point.
I don’t really think it does, as it’s less about explaining the exact intricacies of the blood elf/void elf stuff, but to describe how I feel about the framing of the situation. It’s not perfect, but it illustrates the idea of how something can be equitable when isolated from everything else, but not when you view it in a larger context.
Incorrect. If they wanted to reflect their past in blood elves they would of given you blue eyes when they thought of giving you yellow eyes for the same reason they gave it to you now: the blood elf story moved forward.
Blue eyes and regular skin tones, are bare minimum for void elves, if this is the route blizzard is choosing to take the aesthetic.
Looking forward to when ARs “actually” get their customization pass.
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Are you SERIOUSLY doing the old population argument??? 
That argument has been dead for years and even more dead now with the introduction of the Void Elves. Do even play WoW?
There are High Elves all over the place. Tons in Dalaran, some in Stormwind, plenty with the Silver Covenant (who are loyal to the Alliance, don’t kid yourself), The Sons of Lothar…etc.
The Void Elves numbered in what? The dozens maybe? They were a research team, not even close to the number of High Elves out there. What are you thinking?
Elves were stolen for the Horde in a cheap plot twist. They didn’t do it because it made sense, they did it to give the Horde a pretty race. So we’re not the ones copying anything. Other way around.
Do you have any idea how many dislikes that comment got on the Q&A? Over a thousand just for that out of touch statement alone. Elves on the Horde is a JOKE and complete misuse of the race. They’re just kinda there, they have no value or story anymore. They’re little more than henchmen because they’ve been written into a corner.
BE fans don’t seem to think so but you won’t provide the polls you claimed were done to some extent that apparently say otherwise lol.
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Are you joking? The Blood Elves brought a magical aspect to the Horde that let them go toe-to-toe with the Alliance who always had a magical and technological edge. They were also one of the biggest forces behind Vol’jin’s revolution and integral in forging relations with the Nightborne. As a race, they have one of the better story arcs across all expansions. Lor’themar went from being a nobody to a fan-favorite that people were calling to be made Warchief at one point.
High Elves were wrote out of the Alliance in WC3, it is undeniable. That left them open to come back as either 1) Enemies 2) Third faction, Illidari 3) Horde.
Yes, because Alliance stomp their feet and throw a fit whenever they get told “No.” or when the Horde gets something “cooler.”
High Elves are Blood Elves, you guys have a Wild Berry flavored ripoff. If you disagree, meet me in Silvermoon City and we will see who the guards hit.
One of the egregious things about this discussion, particularly now, especially more than before… is that we have High Elves.
Before it was about skin tones and that was pretty petty. But now it’s about hair color. We’ve already got it.
So now it’s down to, “If I see an Alliance Elf with Blonde hair I’m going to be super upset.”
The skin tone thing before was pretty bad but now that we have “High Elf options” it’s even worse.
After all, there is pettiness that we’re fine with. If an Alliance player was like, “I want Orcs.” and Horde was like, “No, they’re ours.” then, sure, there is an argument for pettiness there. But mostly we’re going to say, “Fair, we’ve never seen Orcs on the Alliance.”
and that’s because that sort of thing is reinforced by the setting itself. You can argue that having an Alliance Orc would in some way damage the artistic license of the series and that could far outweigh any pettiness involved. Like, “Yeah, this guy really wants to play an orc, but that could damage the setting.”
But for the High Elf discussion it’s never been about the setting, so there’s not anything to weigh against people playing High Elves.
It isn’t, “Playing High Elves damages the artistic integrity of the game.” because it doesn’t. You just don’t want “Someone Else” to play a High Elf… and that’s entirely petty. Since playable high elves would be supported by the game.
and now we’ve got playable High Elves, so this is just, “I don’t want you to have the hair color I can have.” and that’s even more exceptionally petty.
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