Oh yeah its totally not the complete package.
The nametag, racial, and voice arent quiet right for a high elf. But 90% of what was wanted is there.
Its in the “good enough but could be better” territory.
Which is about where we all settle in life haha
Please don’t bite, the war isn’t welcome here.
Just a place for ideas for high elves, hopefully to keep folk from making extra threads in the future.
Most folk know Emet isn’t entirely correct in a lot of his viewpoints. That said when hes not fighting folk actively he has a fair few good ideas for this topic, I’d like for him to share them.
Yes! Something I’m sure must be on the docket to come up in Midnight. Seeing the long standing desire of Lor’themar to bring his people back together and to maybe get some closure for the Silver Covenant and Sunreavers beef with one another, not a perfect one mind a lot happened there, but some form of attempt to bring them together so they don’t have to suffer apart regardless of whom they support.
I could see that and I’d love to see it.
I agree with this. I saw a long time ago supposed concept art but I very much think it was a fan made thing people pushed as that, and I can’t find it anymore.
Pretty sure it was more an idea than anything else in the end.
Hope its as good as the Night Elf sets we just got. Old Gods they’re so good.
Its subjective at best.
For those in the High Elf Community its the common desire and there are at least 800 or so in the one discord I mod for. Its not an uncommon one for sure.
Folk are too compartmentalized for any of us to know which ideas are actually more popular. The Forums only accounts for a smallish group and there is no way to tell if its actually unbiased collectively.
It still doesn’t change the race. It’s just a symbollic name. We don’t want to be called High Elves to honor the other fallen High Elves, but we are still High Elves because that’s how race works.
If its the discord i think it is, i think most of those people joined in the early days when void elves didnt have the customisation they have these days and went pretty inactive since. Just a few people talking about random stuff every few days.
But its also been ages since i used discord so it very well could have seen a resurgence.
I also dont want to drag this thread down with saying its an unpopular request.
I think its something that many people would quite like, but are not fussed if it doesnt happen.
i know this but the official name is the point. officially, sindorei no longer go by the former title. so they arent the former title now. they use to be but they arent anymore. you can say wildhammer are dwarves but they arent bronzebeard dwarves because they chose a different official title.
See that’s just inaccurate too. The split wasn’t primordially about loyalty to the alliance, but disagreement about the Blood Elven ideology.
Basically.
Honestly the outdoor sets have slapped so hard in DF; they fill that role of an aesthetically cohesive group of sets we had during BfA and SL as Raid Sets. I know they weren’t the most popular as they took over Class Sets, but I really liked the aesthetic cohesion, so I’m really happy Outdoor sets keep doing that.
i know. we all know the story and the arguments. its a silly debate honestly. the point is the high elves who didnt rename their race to blood elf, were exiled by lor’themar. some stayed neutral but the dalaranian high elves who didnt follow kaelthas to outlands, retained the high elf title. both titles are not dna, they’re just words that act as legal official titles of the race. sindorei are no longer known by the high elf title cause they dont wanna be
This is not inaccurate. Doesn’t change my point though.
I do find this is the common feeling at least on the forums. But again it’s hard to tell the true overall interest.
Blizzard would be the only ones to actually be able to tell. None of us have the ability to gather enough data to be certain of such things.
It’s enough, that the people who want it do. Folk should have a place to speak without having to worry terribly about hostility.
Not to say there’s anything wrong with not wanting it either.
Just wish everyone could have their opinions and not bicker back and forth needlessly.
/rant
Yessss!
I can’t wait to see what’s coming for all my elves.
Technically only one group of high elves was actually exiled… And I think they were technically blood elves with the rest at the time and took up high elf after their exile. Before they all apparently became wretched.
Hmm… I guess two groups were exiled. The void elves kinda count. Lol
well the ones who werent formerly exiled still couldnt stay there if they didnt rename their race to blood elf. and if you dont believe me, just try to go in silvermoon as a helf-velf. they’re gonna roll out the red carpet haha
Nah, you’re right for this. I’m just being tichy. So many purposeful missassumptions have been made over the years to push a narrative in hate it just pushes a button for me.
No way an SC member could just walk in and at that point what’s the difference?
Yeah. As I have said above, currently High Elves are those who didn’t rename themselves Blood Elves basically. Sure they are a fraction, and either alliance or neutral mostly, but still they are the only ones that do call themselves High Elves.
I’ve said it before, it just obfuscates the conversation when the argument circles back to the “Well Blood Elves are the High Elves.” It’s immaterial to which group uses the name now.
That being said, I think a lot of people on the pro side think that having the name High Elf somehow legetimizes them as the “true” Pre-Third War High Elves, which is just not accurate. Current High Elves basically just have the name at this point. Their culture is not the same, highly influenced by the alliance, other realms or isolation. They are exiles without a central government, with their most notorious organization being politically reactionary, in Dalaran.
TBH Blood Elves are closer* to the Pre-Third War High Elves than modern High Elves.
*closer, but neither the same because they culture did suffer some radical shifts after being decimated. Both fel usage and the predominance of the light are new BE aspects.
well even though offiicial lore says theres very few half elves, i think most of the dalaran high elves would almost have to be mix of helf and human, et. al, half elves. official lore says nope
oh yeahhh, before the naaru sunwell incident, they were all about the arcane
I mean without the half elf issue the Dalarani culture is predominantly human, with human values. I do think there’s a lot of elven influence, but yeah, it started as a human kingdom, and even if now is mostly cosmopolitan, that does mean that it’s culture and values are rather unique, neither human nor elven.
It’s like they mostly imported Holy Light from humans and it was a thing of imporr, but not really widespread. After the rebirth of the Sunwell tho, oh boy they went HARD with the Light.
lol exactly. its a bunch of legalese and political hopscotch = helfs are only allowed to visit the sunwell, then scram. they catch you wandering eversong, its taps
Personally im only against high elves as a seperate race is because theyre a bit redundant from a game value stance (not an rp one).
What i really want them to do is scrap the faction divide and then restructure the race selection.
So the splinter races would fall under one category and then you select the one you want.
Like you would pick human, and then kul tiran.
If they did that, they could easily throw in some other racial tags like wildhammer and high elf without any more effort needed or counting as a new thing.
sounds great. i’d likely still level in alliance areas cause i know them best, but would be cool seeing horde races in sw, exodar, ironforge etc and not be there to kill the npcs lol
I think it should be an option to be neutral but that our cities should remain closed off. I can go to Ironforge on a Dwarf.
No, because it’s actually the fourth race.
Bronzebeard
Wildhammer
Dark Iron
Earthen
The Frostdwarves aren’t playable. Yet.