High Elf compromise

[Akston-area-52]

@Vidris-bronzebeard

Why wouldn’t they? They design the lore as well as the gameplay. I’d bet every meeting involving adding new races at least brushes up against the topic. They see the threads. They know how populous they are. Even if its a minority its a vocal and active one.

If you don’t want them thats fine. I respect that opinion. I honestly don’t think they will happen, or that if they do they’ll be customization. But I cannot just tell someone who wants them no. The lore supports them as an AR as AR’s have been presented. Void Elves just make it… complicated

The major problem needing to be addressed are the high end pve/pvp populations.

Introducing high elves won’t make people switch factions for high end mythic, m+ and PVP.

Just because someone wants them, doesn’t mean its a major problem.

@Saraslam-frostmourne

And yet, nobody was originally asking for a compromise to what we already had within the Alliance.

That is how compromises work.

You don’t get exactly what you want.

@Saraslam-frostmourne

There is ways of making them look a little different without effecting the lore, or doesn’t even take magic for them to change either.

So give me the lore reason why after basically zero time at all being separated from the Blood Elves they would look so different?

As soon as they split apart from the Blood Elves they started taking steroids and every high elf installed a P90x?

@Saraslam-frostmourne

Except that they are. Just unavailable to be playable

That is the point.

They aren’t playable for gameplay reasons.

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

Because they are an Alliance lore rich race ready to be used in future lore. I think we’re even returning to northrend for the pre patch with perhaps SC involvement

Thats a bunch of “maybes” you are stringing along there to tell me why high elves would be regularly coming up in their developer talk.

[Saraslam-frostmourne]

@Akston-area-52

That is how compromises work.

You don’t get exactly what you want.

So, in otherwords, people should receive a bunch of void infused Blood Elves that have no lore behind them, and no relevance to them to the inclusion of them becoming playable…

[Vidris-bronzebeard]

@Akston-area-52

The major problem needing to be addressed are the high end pve/pvp populations.

Introducing high elves won’t make people switch factions for high end mythic, m+ and PVP.

Just because someone wants them, doesn’t mean its a major problem.

Of course thats all they care about. They wouldn’t ever think of anything else. Nah never.

@Akston-area-52

That is how compromises work.

You don’t get exactly what you want.

They only got a model. They didn’t get anything they wanted. And only a few changes would have helped immensely. For instance the Void Elves being High Elves before hand.

@Akston-area-52

So give me the lore reason why after basically zero time at all being separated from the Blood Elves they would look so different?

As soon as they split apart from the Blood Elves they started taking steroids and every high elf installed a P90x?

You mean they stopped standing slanted to the side? Cause that is the majority of the change going on between the models.

its the difference between a Night Elf model and a Nightborne one right now.

@Akston-area-52

That is the point.

They aren’t playable for gameplay reasons.

And as such they’re being asked to be made playable.

@Akston-area-52

Thats a bunch of “maybes” you are stringing along there to tell me why high elves would be regularly coming up in their developer talk.

Its as good as any other reason they might bring them up.

[Vicktoria-area-52 (Vicktoria)]

So are they all going to run around naked so one can pick up on the minor body difference?

Cause once you put armor on they look identical

That visual illustration really isn’t helping your assertion they look differant

[Vidris-bronzebeard]

So do void Elves…

[Akston-area-52]

@Saraslam-frostmourne

So, in otherwords, people should receive a bunch of void infused Blood Elves that have no lore behind them, and no relevance to them to the inclusion of them becoming playable…

Or.

In otherwords

When you ask for something that they will not give you, be ready to accept a compromise. They do not seem inclined to give you blood elves (even roided out ones) with blood elf skin tones. They compromised by giving you the model with a noticeable change to its skin tones.

Funny how active you are in a “compromise” thread, but how against compromises you seem to be.

You don’t like that there is not enough void elf centric lore, but your suggestion also goes against the lore.

@Vidris-bronzebeard

Of course thats all they care about. They wouldn’t ever think of anything else. Nah never

I never said that. Only that they are most likely focusing on major issues.

@Vidris-bronzebeard

They only got a model. They didn’t get anything they wanted.

You just contradicted yourself.

@Vidris-bronzebeard

You mean they stopped standing slanted to the side? Cause that is the majority of the change going on between the models.

its the difference between a Night Elf model and a Nightborne one right now.

If you honestly think the only difference between playable night elves and playable nightborne is their standing posture, then you are so far removed from coming into this discussion honestly that I will move on.

@Vidris-bronzebeard

And as such they’re being asked to be made playable.

And as such, you have regularly been given the “no” answer.

@Vidris-bronzebeard

Its as good as any other reason they might bring them up

I didn’t say they aren’t brought up at all. Only not with the regularity being implied.

Anyways, have a great day.

[Lannisterian-tichondrius]

@Akston-area-52

You don’t like that there is not enough void elf centric lore, but your suggestion also goes against the lore.

No it doesn’t. Alleria is a void elf. There is a lore way to give the customization to them and just leave it at that, because they describe Alleria as being the first void elf they don’t emphasize anything else on it, they could simply give the customization and cite that if they wanted to. No reason not to in fact.

[Vicktoria-area-52 (Vicktoria)]

Yes they are void elves, they look like void elves because of their coloring and void effect.

[Akston-area-52]

@Lannisterian-tichondrius

No it doesn’t. Alleria is a void elf. There is a lore way to give the customization to them and just leave it at that, because they describe Alleria as being the first void elf they don’t emphasize anything else on it, they could simply give the customization and cite that if they wanted to. No reason not to in fact

I am referring to the p90x model that was being shown. The high elves that have apparently all hit the gym every day since separating.

[Saraslam-frostmourne]

Put them in full armor, and they look like Blood Elves.

Same with Nightborne, put them in full armor and they look like Night Elves.

[Vidris-bronzebeard]

@Akston-area-52

If you honestly think the only difference between playable night elves and playable nightborne is their standing posture, then you are so far removed from coming into this discussion honestly that I will move on.

whispers Talking about the model. They’re lankier and stand different, theres rather little more different beyond the skintone.

My main is a Night Elf and I JUST leveled this toon specifically because I was asked to look at the model and spend time with it. lol

Also yes. Please move on to other threads.

@Akston-area-52

And as such, you have regularly been given the “no” answer.

They’ve been told not right now and to keep asking politely.

@Akston-area-52

I didn’t say they aren’t brought up at all. Only not with the regularity being implied.

Anyways, have a great day.

The idea that Blizzard is not bringing them up when they discuss possible races to add with so many wanting them is somehow ridiculous?

They brought them up as a joke for april fools. They’re aware of people wanting them and they are likely talking about them.

[Vicktoria-area-52 (Vicktoria)]

Funny mine looks like a void elf

[Lannisterian-tichondrius]

@Akston-area-52

I am referring to the p90x model that was being shown. The high elves that have apparently all hit the gym every day since separating.

The Alliance High Elves don’t have a kingdom anymore. The Blood Elves have the luxury to support all kinds of people, Lord Saltheril types included, not everyone has to be a Farstrider. The BE model makes sense.

High Elf supporters have surmised to my knowledge focusing on more of the Quel’danil life regardless of class is a bit more harsh, and they have used this as one of many examples to simply show how and why the model could be changed. But you’re complaining about the model being different now? I thought the model being the same is the problem?

[Vidris-bronzebeard]

@Vicktoria-area-52

Yes they are void elves, they look like void elves because of their coloring and void effect.

In armor its really easy to miss. They look like Blood Elves. shrug

Its the same model its to be expected.

[Vicktoria-area-52 (Vicktoria)]

My void elves are deliciously blue it’s unmistakable

It’s entirely differant than my human skin tone blood elves.

In and out of armor I have multiples of both.

They look very differant, they are differant races, made to look unique for that very reason.

[Aalis-thaurissan]

@Saraslam-frostmourne

So, is that how it is? Just because the Horde has it, means that the Alliance aren’t allowed to have it?

I am still waiting for your explanation on how blood elves having more skin customizatiom means the idea of half elves were given to the horde.

[Onuris-muradin (Onuris)]

@Vidris-bronzebeard

No final answer was given. They actually have so far encouraged folk to continue to ask politely.

I mean, you’re told to play Horde and then we get the body customizations, too. Kind of easy to infer, no?

[Lannisterian-tichondrius]

@Onuris-muradin

I mean, you’re told to play Horde and then we get the body customizations, too. Kind of easy to infer, no?

They’ve also said no foreseeable plans in the future. And then you look at history like patch notes April fools, Pandaren were alluded to in those patch notes. The legion joke was world of elfcraft or something? That makes sense it gave TWO new elf races. Now this past patch notes alludes directly to high elves. And now that future that wasn’t foreseeable looks like we can see it.

So if you’re trying to make a point I’ll make mine, HE fans have a right to request Alliance HEs.

[Aalis-thaurissan]

@Saraslam-frostmourne

Put them in full armor, and they look like Blood Elves.

Then stop hiding your helmet.

There! You look exactly like a blood elf now.

[Vidris-bronzebeard]

@Vicktoria-area-52

My void elves are deliciously blue it’s unmistakable

It’s entirely differant than my human skin tone blood elves.

In and out of armor I have multiples both.

They look very differant, they are differant races, made to look unique for that very reason.

I too have multiple blood and void elves in various types of armor.

When in armor they really look so close to the same and in heavy armor with helmets and all they are nearly indistinguishable without a closer look.

They’re the same model. Do people really pretend they don’t look the same?

Unless you’re running around with skin showing all over.

@Onuris-muradin

I mean, you’re told to play Horde and then we get the body customizations, too. Kind of easy to infer, no?

yeah so for Bfa No they weren’t adding them. He’s saying not to expect them in Bfa and that its still possible later.

I’ve seen this all before.

You may choose to infer a no there, I see a dev telling me they’re not doing them for AR’s for bfa.