blizzard can end it by either having those few elves that are left leave alliance territory, or have the SC meet their end in a one last charge against an enemy scenario. what better time then right now with sylvanas? she actually gives vereesa a reason to leave dalaran and pursuing her wouldnt compromise dalarans neutrality because shes no longer with the horde!
if they are all dead or folded back into the farstriders there is no argument for a horde race to be playable for them in their preferred faction(not that there is one)
There shouldnât be any issue with being able to play Alliance-aligned high elves. They exist in lore, theyâre constantly being shown off as NPCsâŚ
Void elves have their own identity that shouldnât be altered.
Literally the only person in power that thinks this is a bad idea is Ion, and since heâs the lead dev, it most likely will never happen as long as he is in charge. But Iâd bet my life that if any other person was in charge, the Alliance wouldâve had playable high elves back in Legion.
It will not, even if they kill every single one alliance aligned elf, and change the name ingame of blood elves, it would not stop, they would invent some nonsense in their heads, those people are like that, i already heard things like going AU azeroth to get elves LOL
Sure there isnât unlimited, and one race always have to wait more once other race get their turn
Except there is a tons of issues, like a lot, and thats why they arenât, regardless of people crying in the apst 13 years.
âexistâ in lore, donât automatically make you eligible to be playable
That is some sort of projection, i get it that he is the scapegoat now, but do you remember that he is a recent guy, he and the new team is the solem reason for you guys to have something âclose enoughâ to high elves, crapping on him like he is the one who run blizzard, and make all the decisions is completely unfair
donât bet so high something you will lose.
Ion himself, in prior intrviews, said they will think about subraces like high elves and maghar, HE and the team are the reason allied races are a thing.
They sit down, saw they could not do HE the way it was, and changed their color and thematic to be possible cross the faction barrier.
we must also keep in mind that blizzard adds allied races based not only on request but also as it fits with the timing of the story.
Say when high elves are added but some players wanted tuskarr instead that doesnât mean tuskarr were on the table for that time frame and blizzard chose high elves instead. Tuskarr wouldnât have been an option because they were not relevant to the story at the time.
We must also keep in mind that High elves never fit the story, were relevant or important either, they were just sideckicks that could be easily erased and the story would go the same.
With the addition of void elves there is also no reason to even think about putting then in anything relevant. Why waste storytteling with a horde race who is not even playable here, when we can focus on void elves that actually would make sense in the future to come because of the void as enemy?
they could always make then relevant, maghar werenât, but they were forced into the narrative.
why dilute the story of the void elves to try and shove them into the position high elves have?
Why take away what makes void elves unique to try and make them be high elves?
BFA has already done enough damage in that regards. Instead of using them as experts of the void they were treated like high elves would have been and thrown in with the other alliance forces not making use of their unique powers.
Nearly all of their use in BFA was opening portals. The void can do more than open portals and high elf mages can already do that. ANY mage can already do that.
The position of sideckicks that do nothing? High elves have no position dude, they donât fit anywhere, they do nothing, they are just âthereâ.
In isle of thunder Jaina and the kirin tor run the busines, in Suramar Tyrande and night elves did, erase the high elves from both scenarios and the lore would be exactly the same, since, they ahve no relevance at all.
The only thing the high elves did was to be the ânot night elves elvesâ, and void elves can be that just fine.
ummm what? void elves had more relevance in bfa than high elves of the alliance in their entire wow lifetime
what is more useful.
play the game and you will se they attacking Zuldazar and their void necromancy pretty dope.
Also, apparently, one of the things that make void portals better, is how they can be quickly and go trough magical defenses, like Alleria and the other elves did in the battle for undercity, something mages canât do.
I know, right? By this logic you could have multiple identical races just because they are different groups. What the hell is that?
Blizzard isnât inclined to add races unless theyâre different and the copying thing isnât in the cards. I mean, if they were going to do that then why even bother changing the only playable high elves into void elves? It seems weird to just ignore that completely because itâs inconvenient for the conversation or âbuh we didnât want them!â (when clearly the alliance loves them,) and then keep on like itâs no big deal.
But then that seems to be the real disconnect. Itâs been over a decade and people just canât accept that they didnât go the standard route, they added blood elves (who are THE high elves) to the horde and they donât copy races flat out across the way. Then blood elves get a blue eye option and theyâre all SHOCKED PIKACHU after all the dev quotes and comments and game developments to the contrary to their desire. LikeâŚwhen does it finally sink in?
But no, every group can be a unique race. âBut we can change themâ Yea, thatâs void elves. Cause any change that could be a change would apply already to the main race already playable on Horde. The only difference is political and that isnât enough for their addition. Void elves had a political and physical alteration specifically for the purpose of not infringing on the blood elves.
Weâre really just going to keep going in these circles because until Blizz puts the SC in the ground and stops using non horde high elf models-- of which they donât have to do, itâs their game and putting them in as token NPCs doesnât hurt anyone nor make them required to make them playable-- since most of the pro helfers either feel like theyâre owed something theyâre not, or wonât play Horde and do like the rest of us and just play the opposite faction when we like a race there.
you act like that is an issue. We donât try to frame it as they have some super important role in the alliance. They are normal members of the alliance.
They are no different from humans, dwarves, gnomes, worgen, and all the others. People still like playing those though. We donât demean them for wanting to play those races and try to stop them from doing so.
I still havenât found anything anywhere where it says that Void Elves are a different Race from Blood Elves except for what WoWWiki or WoWPedia says.
Youâre confusing the Alliance âHigh Elvesâ with the actual High elves from before Arthasâ attack on Silvermoon, which they arenât. The High elves on the Alliance have largely abandoned High elven culture in favor of human culture, often times seen wearing human clothes, speaking common and settling with human mates. Notice that when Elisande confronts the Alliance High elves she berates them for many of these things, even going as far as to describe their behavior as a disgrace to the name âHigh elfâ a concept an elf from entirely different culture could readily recognize.
The name âBlood elfâ isnât any departure from being a High elf either, after all they still practice High elven traditions, speak High elven, wear high elven clothes, and live in High elven buildings. Itâs merely meant as a badge of honor toward the fallen. Metzen even goes on to quote the Blood elves by saying âWe are those of the high elven blood.â Blood elves openly embrace their high elven past, heck youâre even turned into a High elf for the Blood elf heritage quest.
Itâs worth noting that the addition of blue eyes also supports the narrative of some High elves rejoining the Blood elves while still retaining their title as âHigh elfâ, as one of the main selling points revolving the new customization options in Shadowlands has been giving players access to a wider variety of different groups, or clans belonging to that race to choose from, regardless of what quest text says. For instance if a player wants to play as a Wildhammer Dwarf instead of a Bronzebeard dwarf, the Wildhammer cosmetics are open to them, and if a player wants to play as a High elf, instead of a Blood elf, the High elf cosmetics are open to them.
That is the thing though. If people are saying, âall it takes is for magic to make a new raceâ, then the same logic would apply for Blood Elves too, considering Blood Elves did use Demonic Magic to help keep there city together during the Sunwell destruction. And that Demonic Energy gave them the effects, from Fel Radiation, which is why there eyes glow and have became green.
then if void elves are just âblood elvesâ you have playable alliance high elves. as blood elves are the high elves. good job saraslam
pretty much. just like death knights are as well. they qualify as AR material but DKs and DHs are just that, DKs and DHs. you cant be a DH warrior or a DK priest so they are just tacked onto their races as a class
The bigger the pool of players the better. Sure there will be some that areâŚnot that greatâŚbut Iâm sure some would see a real benefit from being horde.
I say make the factions are one sided as possible and maybe Blizz will open cross faction play.
go ahead and have our deserters!