None of the Horde members were aware that Sylvanas was wanting to feed death. They were tools be used and abused.
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donât entirely agree with that. Civilians were allowed to flee without incident. The fact they chose to run north into quilboar lands instead of to the great gate of mulgore directly west is entirely on them.
Civilians were not slaughtered at the camp. The only ones killed were those that picked up weapons to defend themselves and soldiers.
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The war of thorns novella strongly implies she has ulterior motives for wanting to start the conflict, so itâs not like her whole feeding death thing wasnât a factor.
That said, the rest of the Horde did get sold on the more direct justification for it, Saurfang included.
Itâs more complicated than the black and white of either side (cue âmorally grayâ memes).
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Youâre still held liable if you push civilians into hostile territory dude. Camp Taurajo was still a soft target. Its like targeting a farm, and shooting down the farmers who pick up weapons to defend it.
DO they count as targets? Yes.
Is it morally questionable? extremely.
Its the same vein as attacking a hospital.
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If said hospital was housing enemy soldiers who were using it as a base of operations and training grounds then the hospital is a legitimate target.
A civilian isnât a civilian when they choose to become a combatant. and they didnât push them into hostile territory. They did that of their own choice. The great gate is literally in sight of the camp.
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I meanâŚyou literally just agreed with me. Technically its a legitimate target, but morally? No. It is questionable to do such a thing.
The great gate went up after camp Taurajo.
the great gate was sieged but held. If they were on the other side of the gate they would have been fine.
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Sylvanas can use and abuse me anytime.
Iâm so sorry.
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Did you not read what I stated or something?
The great gate was not built until after Camp Taurajo..
So it has nothing to do with the discussion since it didnât even exist.
how did they build a gate within a few days?
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Ngl, kind of wish we could move past the war grievance Olympics part of this conversation.
Thereâs always going to be a retort the other faction can bring up and itâll just ping pong back and forth forever.
Then again I guess thatâs kind of this whole thing in a microcosm, soâŚ
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Who knows?
Who cares?
It wasnât there when the incident happened thatâs for sure.
You were wrong on this issue. Admit it and move on.
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nope. /10 char
so lets move on to the next conversations.
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I think our point is just that the Horde isnât alone in committing atrocities and that the Alliance can be criticised too, not trying to say who got it worse.
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Yep. Suck up your pride.
Youâre as bad as most Helfers at this point. You canât admit to being wrong on anything, and when youâre caught, you pretend it never happened.
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Right, I donât disagree with that notion.
My comment wasnât directed at either side of this in particular, more that this particular train of conversation can keep going indefinitely, and I think Iâm just weary of it.
But Iâm increasingly exhausted of the status quo version of the faction conflict in general at this point.
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Youâre just plain wrong.
The Great Gate (or the Mulgore Gates )[1] is a tauren fortification constructed at the entrance to their homeland of Mulgore, separating it from the Southern Barrens in response to the Allianceâs destruction of the nearby Camp Taurajo.
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which makes no sense how that was built within a few days.
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Personally Iâm sort of mad they didnât work a paddock gate pun into the name for a giant gate of a big olâ grassland populated by cows.
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