Wait what? Why?! Did anyone here flag it?
No, it would have shown locked⊠itâs just gone with the wind.
Yes, apparently we canât express why they shouldnât happen. Thanks blues.
The OP didnât look like it was it just 404âs out of nowhere.
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Not me. I was enjoying the discussion. What a bugger.
it just proves this is the containment thread and they want our discussion contained here
Thatâs not the purpose of this thread. Without a comment on it we donât know why they deleted it.
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I know this is purely a lore-based response but; Alleria is not a Void Elf in the way they are. She leads them but is not the same as them.
Alleriaâs mastery over the Void came from a guided, step by step process Locus Walker took her through; beginning with her consumption of the heart of a void revenant and culminating her her draining a dark Naaru. She retains her own physical form as-is in this process and only when she summons the full power of the Void - like the mechanics used with Shadow Priests - does she âVoid outâ.
Now then, Void Elves - the playable version - and why the Alleria-Mode isnât available (from a Lore perspective, not a âBlizzard can do whatever they want!â perspective):
Void Elves were a moment away from having their corporeal forms permanently stripped away during the attempt by a Nether Prince to completely unmake them and remake them into ethereals, here is some of the actual dialogue:
Nether-Prince Durzaan: My people were reshaped by the void. Stripped of the limitations of flesh. We offer you the same gift.
Nether-Prince Durzaan: Even shattered as it is, this place echoes with the whispers of the great ones who were slain⊠and the hatred of he who broke this world.
Nether-Prince Durzaan: A pity you remain defiant. The patience of the masters is vast⊠but not infinite.
Nether-Prince Durzaan: A minor setback. What is in motion cannot be undone. Surely you see this.
Nether-Prince Durzaan: The void will transform you⊠awaken what you were meant to be.
Nether-Prince Durzaan: Do you not see what we offer? The majesty of chaos⊠the glory of infinite hunger!
Nether-Prince Durzaan: Why do you fight your destiny, Windrunner? Join me and rule by my side!
Nether-Prince Durzaan: So be it. Your death is regrettable⊠but necessary.
Without Alleria and the player showing up, the Void Elves arenât Void Elves, they arenât Elves at all, they are bodiless Void entities. Even with the intervention, they have been permanently altered - part Elf, part Void being.
This is not to say that the Lore couldnât have been written to make them Alleria-like - but that it wasnât.
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Iâd rather have high elves and leave void elves alone.
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Flagged as âtrollingâ according to the message I got.
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thats dumb
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Well most players on this thread seem to have had a consensus that flagging is a bad idea. The community outside of this may have done it.
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Sorry but no, itâs always been viewed and even hinted by mods as a containment, which is why the spam begins as soon as this thread itâs locked. They will never explicitly say it because it would go against how customer service works.
Imo, I think that what should be taken into consideration itâs the fact that they were made disctinct, including their complaxion, to make them disctinct from Blood elves. I think that has more weight than anything else and Alleria is one of those characters that just happens to be different.
Well, scratch what I said earlierâŠ
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Considering how often I and other people in the anti-helf discord get posts deleted or mass flagged in this thread, I donât really think you know what youâre talking about tbh.
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It was removed by a mod after being flagged.
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Well I avoid discordâŠ
And are you talking about current discord discussions or past ones?
Letâs think about this for a second.
Creation of a dissent thread automatically has negative implications with the community. An anti Mech Gnome or Vulpera thread is subject to just as much scrutiny as an anti High elf thread. It already builds the premise that itâs going to cause more issues than a regular thread. People should be able to handle themselves better⊠but the moderators obviously made the call to remove it, something is a dissent thread must have given rise to removal. No need to come here and point fingers.
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I donât think this is fair. It does appear blues believe you guys should post your opinions in this thread, even though the purpose of this thread is different.
Sigh.
Iâm not the OP, but please do share your views with us here then, given the situation.
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Iâm not, Iâm just saying itâs ridiculous to pretend that somehow the helfers of this thread are too enlightened to flag things they donât like. I frequently get normal posts flagged and deleted.
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Flagging should be public, honestly. We should be able to see who is flagging what and why. I donât think your thread was trolling. I might have understood that some people alien to this topic would think your thread was spam, but still, I expect blues to know better.
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First off, you dont know who is doing the flagging and who isnt. There is no evidence that shows any person from this thread flagged it.
Second, its amusing that they let the same behavior go on despite the fact they take time to remove post after post. Just a side thought though.
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So, weâre going back to that debate from a few weeks ago about how discussing why they shouldnât happen also belongs here? After all, it seems that bringing up the primer to discuss that specifically was âasking for itâ to be removed basically.
Youâre right, but that might earn you some enemies.
To be honest, I would feel better if I was discussing the topic in that specific branch and not add to the clutter, but what can ya do.
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