Ion said nothing but a platitude and the reason that development denied them is because high elves are already playable and a hign elf variant already exists. and that reason isnt going away. What isnt playable, and almost certainly never going to happen, is playable alliance high elves
I like putting words in a devs mouth. Its a platitude!
Then theres no reason to sit around arguing is there?
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I donât see the problem⊠Its not really lazy. Itâs already built into the dynamics of the faction conflict. Would give an opportunity to Give some more spotlight to the blood elves, with some of BFAâs story⊠besides Lorâthemar being included in the Nazjatar conflict⊠where have they been?? Especially if we come a head with Sylvanas being a baddie?
Where some players see a problem others donât. Having more elves, or another flavor of a thalassian elf isnât going to be game breaking. Itâs what some people want to see.
I donât think this is where us people that want High Elves would like Blizzard to take the Thalassian story. The appearance of them doesnât even matter, so having Void Elves look like High Elves doesnât achieve what we want.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/8f55hj/ion_on_high_elves_as_an_allied_race/
He stated anythings possible in the future, but plainly put a Nope plug on the subject at hand.
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âAnything is possible in the future.â is what he said. He never put a âNope plug on the subject at hand.â. If he and the people working at Blizzard were against us talking about High Elves, they would have done something about it by now.
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Hereâs the thing if they give Void elves a pale skin âsolutionâ
They would have to go and create a possible scenario to explain why they got to pick through that customization. Or if pale skin/ non void appearance was the out of combat default it wouldnât be right for those whom enjoy the constant void appearance. It would be a whole set of customizations for one AR race while the other new ARs wouldnât get anything. Or others would view it as blizz being wrong on Void elves.
The only issue I have with Void elves is that we didnât get to work with them and gain their rep⊠if they would have had us working with them on Argus along with Alleria, then it would have been more organic. Only choice from here on out would be to expand on their story.
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In that regard then, Alliance should just never get High Elves because theyâre already with the Horde. As for the Argument:
"High Elves are different enough from Blood Elves!"
We see this one a lot, but no. Sorry. They arenât. The High Elves went through no mutation, no physical change, no evolution or otherwise genetic alteration after Quelâthalas was sacked by Arthas and the scourge. Kaelâthas renamed the High Elven people Blood Elves in memory and honor of their fallen, and for no other reason. Itâs been only 30 or less years since Kaelâthas renamed his people Blood Elves. They are racially, genetically, identical. While people love to think of High Elves as âpureâ or Blood Elves as âtaintedâ, which are both untrue, given the recent golden eyes of the Blood Elves, it doesnât appear that tapping demonsâ magic to sate the elvesâ magical addiction did anything cosmetically permanent. Blood/High Elves that succumbed to their hunger became Wretched. Blood Elves that overindulged in fel became Felblood Elves.
If however, they did make factions more liquid - Or even more complicated (Civil Wars within the factions due X events & decisions that splits them and makes a bit of a strange mixture of different Alliances) I could see just making Blood Elves a neutral race and having the ones on the Alliance side a mixture of Blood Elves, Silver Covenant and the others who were just predominately neutral (Within Kirin Tor, exploring the World or drinking tea with Blue/Azure dragons) wanting to help their united peoples and fight for what they believe in.
If they did this, then yes I would like to see the High-Elf customisation features, and lore build up, + other vast majority of ideas mentioned in the core of this thread.
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Their political difference is the biggest difference that matters.
You could still make High Elves look different from Blood Elves though.
Change their idle stance and animations. Even when armored up or naked, (if they have different animations and idle stances) you could easily figure out who is a Blood Elf and who is a High Elf. You could add a very different aesthetic to their hairstyles and facial hair options too.
There is a hair colour that Blood Elves donât seem to have anymore, so even if itâs a little change, it does mean that their genetics have been altered in a slight way.
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I think they deserve some updates and nice touches just because, not because they need to look different.
Lets start with a better stance for the males.
Throw some wicked tats on them.
New hairstyles for sure.
Get rid of the male duck lips.
Better animations.
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Highvale Elves are part of the Alliance:
The Highvale Documents quest:
The Highvale have kept detailed records here for years. Deaths, births, seasons⊠but also vital scouting information and methods of contact with the rest of the Alliance.
Simple grammar analysis:
âThe Highvaleâ is the subject, and the rest is the predicate. If the Highvale have kept methods of contact with the rest of the Alliance, it means the Highvale are a part of the Alliance. If they werenât, this should read âmethods of contact with the Allianceâ.
Theyâre also faction tagged as Alliance, and are hostile to Horde players. Horde players questing there are told to kill those High Elves precisely to interrupt their communication lines with the Alliance.
The main quest in QuelâDanil Lodge involves Highvale elves fighting together with other Alliance races against the Forsaken, a Horde race.
If they were supposed to be neutral, Blizz is doing a terrible job.
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he didnt have to
also after BFA ARs are going to be rare and only added when they make sense. so things like new races we come across in the future. they dont want them to become an expected thing like every patch. the chances of them wasting this spot on something already playable and that has its own variant becomes even less likely
Itâs hilarious to me how much some people want to paint them as neutral. As if that stopped other races from becoming playable, so even if they were neutral itâs not like it means anything.
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âalso after BFA ARs are going to be rare and only added when they make sense. so things like new races we come across in the future. they dont want them to become an expected thing like every patch. the chances of them wasting this spot on something already playable and that has its own variant becomes even less likelyâ
Alliance High Elves arenât playable 
We have Void Elves and the Horde have Blood Elves. None of them identify as the High Elves that we care about. Neither of them have been living and working for the Alliance since the fall of Quelâthalas.
If you believe âthe chances of them wasting this spot on something already playable and that has its own variant becomes even less likelyâ is true, what is the point of you wasting your time here? Weâre trying to discuss why it should be very likely and why it works well.
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Even on their own primer thread someone said they are against them but pretty much just said âthey should do it anywayâ lol idk
It would be nice to not have these discussions anymore. I like you guys though 
but this is never going to end lol unless something is done haha.
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When we get high elves, maybe we should make an in game community so we can keep in touch.
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only a few individuals are alliance high elves. the SC do not âlive with and workâ for the alliance. they are a small militia of elves in dalaran. i dont doubt they have alliance sympathies but technically they are neutral and put dalaran first
the lodge elves are elves who returned when anasterian withdrew from the alliance or were always there, and survived the actual assault on their kingdom and accepted the rebranding of their people. it wasnt until they rejected rommaths teachings got exiled and headed south did they revert back to calling themselves âhigh elvesâ a term that no longer means what it once did and is used as nothing but a way to show political dissent
there is no alliance army or high elf state in the alliance. the high elf state is quelâthalas
because like you i too have an agenda and both pro and anti can speak their opinion here. something that is even accepted in the OP
Im not on that discord for this stuff but that might be the best place for this.
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Was the new primer thread just taken down??
Seriously? What the hell?