So basically you won’t answer.
Im not saying the defias should be playable, but maybe another group of humans could be on horde. Im super down for that. If horde got humans, would you be ok with alliance getting High Elves?
You’re so funny thinking it’s literally my opinion you’re a troll.
The flag for trolling literally states extraneous as a point for trolling. Which is the constant that you and a lot of other antis emulate daily. Please tell me how Blizzard is wrong in this aspect.
You only continue to prove it further.
I haven’t once said anybody must do anything, and even if that were my position, there’s no way to enforce it in a public space.
The point being made is that this thread was made to talk about a very specific subject, from a very specific angle – to enter into a conversation that has only a single outlined parameter, and to intentionally ignore said parameter because “my freedom”, in order to peddle unrelated opinion(s) is definitionally discourteous.
Are people allowed to do it? Absolutely.
Are people allowed to become irritated, and conversationally averse, when others don’t respect an agreed upon framework of discussion? Absolutely.
It’s, frankly, silly to think that all opinions must be equally respected in all situations.
To talk about whether they should, or shouldn’t, at playable High Elves is definitionally off-topic for this thread – but talk about liking or disliking this proposal or that proposal conceptually, even those who oppose everything like Fyre, that’s fine I agree.
Maybe. It’s be 10 years since Spanish 2.
Yes
It literally is your opinion.
Probably because the last time one of my posts was flag bombed for trolling nothing came of it.
If you find my posts are troll worthy, flag em.
Unless there is a reason for it to be disrespected, such as flat earthers, or anti-vaccines, there is no reason to immediately dis-regard and disrespect someone’s view on the matter.
Again, regardless of the intent of this thread, if the matter is relating to the subject it is perfectly acceptable. It has nothing to do with “muh freedom” but more along the lines of engaging in a discussion in ALL avenues because these are facets of the discussion which should not be ignored, or disregarded simply because they make people uncomfortable.
You propose you are not saying anyone must do anything, but then you bring into play how the thread is a singular subject that someone wishes to discuss. You can’t say one thing, then say the other when the two oppose each other. You either say “well this topic is about one thing.” or we respect the fact that that this topic has significantly more topic points than just “how can we make HE’s look if they become playable”.
It implies something that will occur, and that is something some people do not desire.
We have seen some of the pirates in Kul’tiras work for the horde. Alterac/syndicate is a perfect example.
But this isn’t a race thing, it’s political and faction based, it’s unique to the High elves of the alliance.
Imagine that dark irons could have been working with the Horde vs joining Moira in cata for the race to the ironforge throne.
Let’s say the Dark Irons have been assisting the horde to an official capacity here and there through out the wow timeline. The Dark Irons could have been an acceptable horde race if blizz had chosen this path, which iam dissappointed they did not.
I meant to ask earlier, but what theme would you like to see explored for the high elves? I am a huge fan of the highvale angle, but I love hearing about what others would like for them!
there are 3 human factions that work against SW humans. the defias, alterac and fogsail pirates. not to mention the ones tied up in death cults
every race has tiny factions of their people that work against them. that doesnt mean they need to be playable. just like the goblin in si:7 doesnt need to be playable or night elf paladins because 1 night elf priest chose to become a paladin
We don’t flag anymore, I’m just reading off the definition to you.
Fyor has also stated your disingenuous posts as being unfaithful to the thread, especially since you have nothing to gain from it anymore.
I read awhile back about them taking Dalaran back, the “morally grey” that the Alliance has been missing could come from that. Or their recruitment could be helping them make a cleansed Tirisfal into a new settlement, while on their way out of Dalaran, spitting in khadgars face.
High Vale is the best option imo. What they could do to really further that is have Dalaran return to its original location. The SC and High Vale Elves would be even closer. It would be a fairly large group after that. Maybe even work together to populate Arathi. The reason the Elves even had an uneasy alliance with the humans in the past was because of the Arathi humans way back in the day.
I think you brought this up because I mentioned night elf paladins earlier.
Leads me to believe you have an inflammatory angle in here, dismissing other people’s requests in game as non-possibilities and being a tad spiteful in the way you say things.
Imagine comparing High Elves to “faction off shoots” like pirates, defias and altercation humans.
It’s almost like they haven’t even played the game.
Also: Paladin is just a Warrior and a Priest, which Night elves have both of in scores.
Who says a priest cant get ripped and slay with a huge weapon…in the name of the Light of course.
Ah, so you just passively aggressively call people trolls. Is that…not the definition of trolling when you say things for the sake of annoying people?
“A person agrees with me, so that means I am right.”.
That doesn’t mean anything other than someone agrees with your point of view.
Fact of the matter is that as it stands, high elves don’t work in any capacity without
- Being altered so significantly that they stop being high elves.
- Making void elves redundant.
- Resulting in a significant design imbalance.
So,
it was never theres to begin with, and the Sunreavers and Kirin tor and stormwind would oppose them.
They pretty much are faction off shots. A group of individuals working with the opposing faction of the majority for their own reasons.
That is just facetious.
As it relates to any pointed discussion, with very specific talking points, there’s plenty of reason to disregard comments – if your house is on fire and you’re trying to figure out how to stop it form burning down, but your crazy sister Bethany just keeps screaming, “Marshmellows!”, you don’t all stop what you’re doing and deeply consider the profoundness of her words. You disregard them.
That said, I agree, being disrespectful isn’t warranted.
They don’t conflict.
This thread is intended for people to brainstorm ways in which the High Elves might become appropriately unique from related groups (i.e. Blood Elves, Void Elves), lated groups), and for individuals to weigh in on what they do or don’t like about any of these devised fantasies.
If you disagree with something, by all means, tell everyone why – but at it’s core, and this ought to make some of the anti-HE posters giddy to see written, this thread was designed to be a series of community-authored, one-off fanfics that could gift Blizzard some ideas on how HE’s might become unique onto themselves.
In the name of elune in this case.
I would love to play a High Elf. Being an old school Warcraft Ranger would be fun.
Haha old school? Theyre still around in WoW. But I get ya. I always chose the Elven Ranger in custom WC3 games =p
I made notion of this earlier in my church example. One would not bring ing a dissenting opinion during mass, but in a discussion with a priest in a more appropriate setting. In the case of the forums, this setting falls into the latter rather than the former. Context is everything of course.
That is the purpose of an oppositional argument, it is not necessarily to move in vein with those who wish to see them implemented. It is still relatable to the topic, because it outlines reasons why various suggestions simply would not or could not work. It is certainly supportable of an assertion given the context of everything that has occurred in the spirit of this game as well as the design views the developers have exposed over the existence of WoW.
I would not necessarily declare it not supportable, nor would I agree on the idea that it does not remain in the spirit of the discussion. Particularly since the discussion of high elves has evolved significantly over time from one of suggestion, to an intense debate within the community.
As I previously noted, I was perfectly fine with the notion of high elves in the past, but I do not agree with it now.
And before anyone claims that it is due to the treatment I have received from those desiring high elfers, it is a non factor. I could care less how a community views me since my views are my own on this matter.