High Elf Allied Race Megathread (Continuation)

[Mallekith-wyrmrest-accord]

[Avarie-farstriders]

Pretty much. It’s probably like the horde ones, you earn it on alliance but can use it on both.

That’s how it should work anyway.

[Elyssaria-kargath]

Lol I could care less for a bee mount, and the horde got appropriate mounts from zandalar.

I’d love to have a wicker dog from drustvar, that would be an appropriate mount. That would conceivably be a cross faction mount after an alliance acquisition questline.

[Dekkar-sisters-of-elune (Dekkar)]

can i use my hyena on alliance then or no?

[Avarie-farstriders]

I think so. I think both the horde mounts can be obtained by horde but used by both.

[Murgatroyd-lightbringer (Murgatroyd)]

So, purely deliberate pot stirring for its own sake. Got it.

[Starlagosa-dentarg (Starlagosa)]

I don’t think so, but Alliance can get the drop from the zone. I still haven’t gotten the Kuafon mount quest to drop for me.

[Dekkar-sisters-of-elune (Dekkar)]

thank you for letting me know! i’ll have to try tomorrow when i get a chance to play.

[Fyrebusche-wyrmrest-accord]

post of the day for me. this cracked me up

[Avarie-farstriders]

My friend bought a hyena mount from the AH on an alliance toon, no idea if it’s the same one or not though.

[Starlagosa-dentarg (Starlagosa)]

I haven’t compared to know. I didn’t realize it wasn’t soulbound.

[Avarie-farstriders]

Well either way, there’s at least one hyena option for allies.

The bee should be an option for the horde in a similar manner, especially since it’s the only one.

[Softsong-aggramar (Softsong)]

Again, that is simply using one person’s argument and say it’s shared by all, when I literally don’t agree with said argument.

One that is a prevalent, even in the OP of this thread. One that Drede also loves to insinuate. If you don’t agree, congratulations but it is the point I was originally making.

It’s really wild to say that Blood Elves were meant to fulfill the HE fantasy when they were created by moving far away from it, so much they changed names… The whole point of Blood Elves is that they CHANGED in order to survive, to disregard that is simply deny the Blood Elven themes at their core.

And yet they are the only group that still carry on High elven traditions, actively speak the High elven language, and continue the High elven visual aesthetics. Their home is the High elven capital and the very Blood Elven heritage quest turns your character into a high elf to experience the tribulations and struggles the High elves endured. Even visually Ion describes the High elven themes as inherently Blood Elven, suggesting to players that want to play fair-skinned, blonde haired, blue eyed elves should play Blood Elves.

Are Blood Elves “closer” to the Pre Third War Thalassians than Modern High Elves? I would say so, but to say they are practically the same or that they fulfill that HE fantasy is risible.

It’s irrelevant if they aren’t “Exactly” the same, it is still a central theme to their race. It’s the same reason why High elves aren’t given any High elven phrases when interacted with, or are seen wearing any high elven themed clothes or wielding high elven themed weapons, to make this cultural distinction a little more visible between the elves still immersed in High elven culture and those who’ve largely abandoned it.

You suggest not disregarding the growth of these groups, yet you ignore the “growths” that gave the High elves the little distinction from Blood Elves in the first place.

I am pretty suspect of anyone that claims to like Blood Elves yet disregard all their growth and uniqueness and claim they are the OG High Elves; no one is the OG High Elves. the Fall of Quel’Thalas wasn’t just a bad weekend, it was something that completely changed Thalassian society, it wasn’t just rebranding FFS.

Acknowledging their roots, and what inspired their themes and culture is not the same as disregarding their growths. Each race pulls from a theme unique to them, and it’s important to maintain those elements when furthering the fantasy it’s intended for. Blood Elf players feel they deserve the high elven themes because it’s always been a core theme to their race.

There’s quite a difference between BE tattoos (which were their own cool thing in RPG materials) and Ranger Tattoos. The difference between Alleria and Rommath’s tattoos is obvious.

And to call Tattoo’s by themselves a “traditional” blood elf theme when two NPC’s have them is a stretch.

Alleria mind as well have jumped out of a time machine from the day and age that best represents the high elven themes, one that is not shared by the modern day High elf. While like you previously mentioned it’s clear the Blood Elves have grown in the time since she departed, they are still far more similar in theme than Alleria is with other High elves. It is probably why she isn’t seen interacting very much with High elves, and directly reaches out and allies herself with the only group of Blood elves who were willing to side with her. But that’s simply a theory

The point being made is since they are NOT a common theme for Modern Blood Elves they could be made a common theme for High Elves to help differentiate them. Because they aren’t a choice for BE’s, it takes nothing away from what BE players have.

And we’ve come full circle. Just because tattoos are not a playable belf customization yet doesn’t mean it isn’t one of their thematic characteristics considering many official pieces of art depicting blood elves have tattoos. If the entire intention of giving them tattoos was to separate their themes, it’s a poorly chosen one.

Your point is that Blood Elves should have them too.

No, my point is because Blood Elves already have them, it does not make them any more distinct from Blood Elves than they already are.

So then you don’t care about differentiation? Can we have High Elves that look just like BE’s them? Cause all I’m getting so far is that you are against playable High Elves and yet if they existed and had tattoo’s, Be’s should have them too.

Personally myself, I want to see playable High elves in any iteration. Whether they be Alliance, or Horde, I want to pursue the best possible course that may lead to them being playable. Unfortunately many people only want high elves in one way, or not at all, and that’s a stance I’m against. That said, I can’t see Blizzard ever changing their perspective on why they don’t want to add high elves to the Alliance, nor can I pretend to not see the problem it presents to players that feel it infringes on the blood elven thematic on the horde.

So what is your overall stance here? Yes or no on High Elves? How much differentiation is needed if any at all?

Your answer is the race you’re posting on. Void elves. A type of Thalassian elf with a thematic so different that it does not infringe on the theme of the Blood Elves, both visually and culturally.

[Prétre-sargeras]

Oh man, we might not have same opinion on High Elves but man your gifs are great.

Also, everyone needs to slow down on here while Im at work. 500 post to read is a lot lol

[Konkka-wyrmrest-accord]

High Elfers are just people who want to play Blood Elves, but don’t like looking at Orcs. Or the color red.

[Murgatroyd-lightbringer (Murgatroyd)]

Oh man, we might not have same opinion on High Elves but man your gifs are great.

I know we don’t agree - but no one ever correctly said that we have to dislike people we don’t agree with on one issue. And thanks, I do what I can.

[Fyrebusche-wyrmrest-accord]

even the devs called it out

[Prétre-sargeras]

We want to play High Elves, not Blood Elves. Blood Elves are on the Horde, High Elves that didnt join their kin after the third war are on the Alliance.

[Avarie-farstriders]

Orcs are fine, but trolls are better (the race, not the forum variety).

[Fyrebusche-wyrmrest-accord]

We want to play High Elves, not Blood Elves

they are already playable, what you want are playable alliance high elves. then this makes sense and i wouldnt be compelled to post