And they still are in the end…
k rides here!
Play nice!
which is weird since it wouldnt infringe on your silhouettes or whatever.
Especially if the Helves use the human models as with the examples up in the OP. Seriously, I want those to be the Helve’s models…
then you would have to change the blood elf model as they are the exact same people that have lived together for the last 7000 years. theres a reason they share the same model
1 Like
kt are just chubby humans that are chubby for “something different” and not at all related to drust anything so it’s not like there’s not already precedent for a model change even with the same race.
1 Like
Yeah, Kul Tirans! I used them as an example before, and I would say that’s still relevant. High Elves could easily use the Human models as a basis, like that example in the OP. It could very well be that they’ve begun to recover from (or weren’t as badly ravaged by) the magic addiction that plagued the entire race before the Sunwell was rekindled in BC.
2 Likes
Again, that is simply using one person’s argument and say it’s shared by all, when I literally don’t agree with said argument.
??
Again, you are arguing with someone that believe that Modern High Elves are THE High Elves and that’s not me, so, why are you countering an argument I haven’t made?
My point is that Modern High Elves have a right to their own heritage, even if that is a fraction of what was once shared by all Thalassians and is now mostly on the Horde.
It’s really wild to say that Blood Elves were meant to fulfill the HE fantasy when they were created by moving far away from it, so much they changed names… The whole point of Blood Elves is that they CHANGED in order to survive, to disregard that is simply deny the Blood Elven themes at their core.
Are Blood Elves “closer” to the Pre Third War Thalassians than Modern High Elves? I would say so, but to say they are practically the same or that they fulfill that HE fantasy is risible.
I am pretty suspect of anyone that claims to like Blood Elves yet disregard all their growth and uniqueness and claim they are the OG High Elves; no one is the OG High Elves. the Fall of Quel’Thalas wasn’t just a bad weekend, it was something that completely changed Thalassian society, it wasn’t just rebranding FFS.
There’s quite a difference between BE tattoos (which were their own cool thing in RPG materials) and Ranger Tattoos. The difference between Alleria and Rommath’s tattoos is obvious.
And to call Tattoo’s by themselves a “traditional” blood elf theme when two NPC’s have them is a stretch.
The point being made is since they are NOT a common theme for Modern Blood Elves they could be made a common theme for High Elves to help differentiate them. Because they aren’t a choice for BE’s, it takes nothing away from what BE players have.
Your point is that Blood Elves should have them too.
So then you don’t care about differentiation? Can we have High Elves that look just like BE’s them? Cause all I’m getting so far is that you are against playable High Elves and yet if they existed and had tattoo’s, Be’s should have them too.
So what is your overall stance here? Yes or no on High Elves? How much differentiation is needed if any at all?
4 Likes
Some people are just going to keep going in circles with the same things. Nothing we offer will be good enough because anything that would actually make us happy is out of the question for some.
1 Like
it’s very cakey eaty to me. “we’re the og helves and we deserve tattoos and just deal with your velves, noobs!”
no it isnt
chris metzen in 2005 said ‘blood elves are our high elves’
as lead dev he was aware of a couple high elf npcs the alliance interacted with in vanilla and the few allerian elves barely hanging on in outland until the portal reopened. yet still said ‘blood elves are our high elves’
it is not wild that ion has upheld this stance either
1 Like
This was before the allied race feature was introduced.
But you have recycled this point so many times it’s spam worthy.
1 Like
I really don’t know how to even try to explain you, of all of people, that the group created to move away from and subvert the common fantasy tropes of High Elves doesn’t fulfill said fantasy…
Seriously, let’s not.
1 Like
recycled arguments get recycled answers
i think velves only existed because they wanted to give horde nightborne.
And this is why I think we should just ask for what we really want, because any compromise that would be okay with us will never work for reasons.
i want epic beards. they don’t need to be dwarf level but velf level would be cool to me. 
YEah, Void Elves (while I do like them!) really came way out of left-field… the build-up towards them was almost non-existant since all we really got to see was Alleria consume a Darkened Naaru for Void power and …well, that wasn’t a straight indicator that we’d be getting a new Elf race. At least not within the space of one expansion to another. It was only when the Allied Races got leaked that it became clear what all that was about, really. Or so it seems to me, looking back.
High Elves have been around for …pretty much ever, even despite War 3 and the Blood Elves coming to be, the High Elves still remain distinct in their own way. They just aren’t playable yet…but absolutely can be, with the AR system.
3 Likes
Blizzard has some epic beards in the emergency storage bin for emergency purposes.
“Break Incase of beardless orcs, Humans and Draenei”
1 Like
Epic beards are a must. And since velfs are alliance, there’s no reason high elves shouldn’t share some of the hair options they have. They should get additional ones as well, and no tentacles obviously.
1 Like