Sunwell plateau epilogue along with chronicles.
Lorâthemar knew it was different and he is a ranger.
Besides Lorâthemar saying the magic of the sunwell is different, that some would need time to get used to it? That Aurora directly refers to it in the very next passage?
Youâre just being obstinate, you donât really have anything to stand on.
And you also see in that same event how dissenters are mind controlled and forced to follow the regimeâs beliefs.
I wonder how many Blood Elves are actually still being mind controlled to this day.
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I always found that part rather odd to be honest. They exiled dissenters in the past, why not continue to do so?
Itâs really tricky that they havenât done ANY update whatsoever to silvermoon since TBC.
Chronicles III, Fury of the Sunwell.
The essence of Mâuru has been always a thing that Blood Knights used and been harmonized with. There is no a single High elf that appear to use the light from the Sunwell, because they never wanted to do it in the first place.
Stop running in circles like a dog chasing his tail.
Feeling the energy =/= Using it.
You are the one going in circles over the same things.
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Itâs not though, as her theory makes absolutely zero sense and neither implied or suggested anywhere in the game. Elves need to be harmonized with the essence of Mâuru to use the light? Says who?
If High elves have no problem drawing on the Sunwell, what reason does she have to believe that they refuse to use its light magic as well? You canât make something up out of thin air and then say âYou have no proof to prove me wrongâ as an argument, thatâs not how it works. You need to supply evidence that supports your claim before you start asking others for burden of proof to prove otherwise.
Oh is this just another petty attempt to argue a point youâve failed miserably at a dozen times with headcanon and baseless theories? Iâve supported and proved my position countless times, and yet every time you try to argue with me you switch points and positions every time your argument falls through. From the well being mostly light (with no proof) to suddenly the theory that because light is a base-element it overrides other forms of magic (despite many Blood Elves still having green eyes, or the fact that wretched blood elves have blue eyes from the use of arcane alone.) Sorry but your contrived agenda makes it harder and harder to take you serious each and every time.
Youâre saying the fact that she mentions that she no longer needs help to cope right after lorâthemar mentions the well has been restores is completely coincidental? That she then manipulates the light right in front of lorâthemar proving that she has no qualms doing so? What evidence supports any of this?
Considering that many Blood Elves do not have gold eyes either, this isnât really an argument? Blood elves are seen recently in Nazj, and guess what? They still have green eyes. Besides that most elves are in time-locked areas and have not had their models updated or touched in years.
Difference is youâre suggesting a cultural opinion that is not mentioned or implied anywhere in game while weâve seen first hand that High Elves still revere the Sunwell even in its new state and are even seen traveling and residing at the well in Quelâdanis. Itâs the equivelent of me fabricating a theory with absolutely zero evidence and asking other people to prove me wrong. Itâs contrived and lazy.
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Okay and where does this say you need to be harmonized with the essence of Mâuru to use it? That literally just sounds like itâs saying that Blood knights have been using the light since before the Well was made, not that it is a reason they can control it. And if this is the case why is golden eye customization available to all classes and not just Paladins/death knights?
Mâuruâs essence was used to re-ignite the sunwell. It literally does not exist any longer. As soon as the sunwell was lit, all high elves and blood elves fell under the effects per lore.
Youâre trying to cite lore which has been made irrelevant.
You quoted her manipulating it.
I didnât say you were going in circles, I stated you were being obstinate. Your argument is a defunct one, utilizing information which has explicitly been made defunct by newer lore.
You quote Mâuruâs essence, but it does not exist anymore.
The fury of the sunwell was in reference to the TBC era, and an explanation of how blood knights came to be and where they derived their powers.
Velen used the essence to re-ignite the sunwell, and so the sunwell is both light and arcane.
hence the statement in shadow of the sun which overwrites your argument entirely.
How you can contradict yourself and refuse to see it is an impressive feat
arent there high elves with gold eyes in game?
The heart of Mâuru was used to reignite the Sunwell.
If we take the word âreigniteâ and leave it at that⌠Where do the Light energy come from?
Ah, from thin air? Or from the essence of the Heart of Mâuru?
There arenât that many âlightâ wielding High elves in general anymore really. If there are theyâre in time-locked zones that havenât been touched in years. The only case Iâve seen is Alleriaâs son, a half-elf paladin with gold eyes.
Thatâs what Blood Knights do, use itâs light, High elves do not use the light of the Sunwell since they have always been classical light users as Humans and Dwarves.
Blood elves on the other hand are a mixture, but the only ones who use the light from their own source of power.
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So theyâre aware of the Sunwellâs influence and essentially are speaking of it affecting Blood Elves exclusively, which makes sense as the Sunwell is in their city.
As is the case with literally every other race, you can just control Light as a priest without it meaning youâre âtaking it from the Sunwell,â if youâre an Elf.
The Wretched you see in Silvermoon were never affected by the fel to start with - Afaik, they became Wretched before Blood Elves started using fel crystals. I mean, do you see any fel crystals around in the areas infested with Wretched? This suggests that first came the Wretched, and then the placement of Fel crystals (the source of Blood Elvesâ fel glow).
In fact, if you go to the Sunwell Isle, youâll see Wretched with fel glow, not blue.
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No, itâs not because itâs in their city. Itâs because itâs an energy they use. High elves simply donât use the light of the Sunwell.
Damn thank you, goddamit, at least someone who is willing to not plug their ears.
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Regarding whether or not High Elves are using the restored energies of the Sunwell - kindly reminder that almost all High Elves in QuelâLithien Lodge turned into Wretched after the restoration of the Sunwell, which highly implies they are not using the Sunwell, no matter how intrinsically connected to it they may be.
If they were using the Sunwell, they shouldnât feel the need to overfeed on Arcane and thus turn into Wretched.
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They do unless we are specifically told that they actively donât, as the case with Quelâdanil is.
However, they donât use itâs light energies, thatâs what they donât do.
And Thalassians donât turn into wretched by lack of magic usage, but overfeeding on it so not using the Sunwell is not a cause of becoming wretched. Thalassians nowadays can still become overcharged with magic and become wretched.
Ok so, they CAN not use the Sunwell, see that theory makes sense.
Itâs only logical. There were High Elf priests in WC3 and that was before the Sunwell went âHalf-Lightâ. So theyâre obviously capable of using the Light without a power-wellâs influence.
Just because Lorâthemar was talking about the Sunwell before she stopped him and said âYeah iâve known about the Light famâ, doesnât mean she was using the Sunwellâs magic.
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Thatâs not the point - the point is: why would you overfeed on Arcane when you donât need it and you donât feel withdrawal if youâre using the Sunwell? Thatâs why I said itâs implied theyâre not using the Sunwell.
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E X A C T L Y !
OMFG Iâm certainly getting the good feelsâŚ
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