High Elf Allied Race Megathread (Continuation)

Well, sure, if a horribly changed and vastly different physical state means they’re the same race, you already have high elves since you have void elves. Good talk guys, pack it up.

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Returning once more to support High Elves in the Alliance.

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They’ll eventually get revamped, with all old racial mounts.

In, like, 80 years.

In support of high elf thread, I drew this picture.

https://i.imgur.com/NZlat2z.png

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Had a thought.

Since high elves can visit the sunwell since WotLK lore still stands and has yet to be changed…cant queldorei have a viable argument to have golden eyes too?

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They do, Arator had golden eyes in his Legion model.

inb4 ‘b-b-b-b-b-but half elves don’t count as high elves unless it’s convenient to what I’m saying’

Well, exiled ones probably can’t come back. I guess the visiting ones are mostly civilians. And they probably don’t stay for long, they have families elsewhere.

Also, I headcanon that many learned to not bask on magic power because they now think it’s better to not get too used to it.

Yeah, because Arathor’s unique half-elf model is totally accurate.

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It is the only time that it has happened as well. We can only go based off the precedent set.

Lothraxion for the first sentence.
I am unsure where you get the second notion.

You can’t dismiss it because it is inconvenient to you.
Every single allied race has remained on its parent race’s faction. Dark iron, kul tiran, maghar, zandalari, lf dranei, Hm tauren.

The only two allied races that are NOT on their parent race’s faction are, void elves, and Nightborn elves.
Those were clearly swapped; and badly implemented in design; but their parent race is on the opposing side.

high elves face the following issues that create a different context for them.

  1. Their core race is on the Horde.
  2. Their offshoot race is on the alliance.
  3. They are the exact same race as the blood elf race. So making them available to the alliance makes them redundant in two ways.

The Naaru are literally the opposite of void lords.

This is becoming a cyclical argument.
here, let me make it simple for you.
if high elves are a different race? Why are they affected by the sunwell?.

I am not going piece by piece refuting your argument again only for you to flat out ignore it.

Good, good, you’re following.
San’layn would therefore, not be considered thalassian elves.
Just like how DK races are DK’s first and their race second.
Same for demon hunters.

The isle of quel’dalar is a part of silver moon, and in order to get to it, you must go through silver moon. It is a part of silver moon. Or are the islands in seattle not part of that city despite being addressed as “seattle”.

So why didn’t Arthas simply take a boat? I mean, you’re trying to make arguments up at this point.

Per blizzard
Unless we say otherwise it is not contradicted by lore.
nothing has been stated that their pilgrimages have stopped.
Therefore, they are continuing until stated otherwise.

Dont like=/=actively seeking to attack.

They still allow them to go to silver moon sooo

Void elves. Who have been exiled purely because of that corrupting ability and not because they dislike them. It was only after they participated in the battle of Lordaeron that they were considered traitors.

Read my statement about what blizz said.
Your headcanon < canon.

You mean, blood elves would suspect the alliance and Auric of tampering with a blade that injured the current Regent lord and rejected him despite him ruling the blood elf people? A blade that is sacred to the blood elf people?
Did you forget that the guards were also commanded to return to their post because the sunwell is always being guarded?
The high elf pilgrim’s were not accosted in the least.
So that is dishonest of you to claim.

So…you are?

You are claiming the blood elves are different races from high elves. So we need to analyze them and determine what they are.
Blood/High elf is an adjective representing their political affiliation due to the history involved. It does not denote a different race.

It sounds more along the lines of you granting greater power to these adjectives in a way that is unsupported. I do not agree, and naturally I am going to give oppositional arguments. The fact you are accusing me of intellectual dishonesty with an unsubstantiated claim of not caring about blood elf lore; even though the argument is how blood elves and high elves are the same race; is indicative of not having an argument to actually use.

Blood elves and High elves are the same race known as Thalassian elves.
If they weren’t, the sunwell would not affect them both the same way.
They would not have the same appearances as each other.
The same capabilities.

So the only difference is due to political affiliations.

All blood elves/high elves who are adults are from the same generation because the schism occurred 30 years ago; and that is being loose with when it exactly occurred; and they live for thousands of years. The only one’s who have matured to adults in this time are half elves like Arator. Even then, if we accept the existence of 30 year old blood/high elves, they are all still affected by the sunwell.

Refuted the generation argument before it was even made. Whoops.

So when it’s aesthetic stuff like blood elves having slightly redder skin than high elves it’s all Blood elves are red because of fel corruption! Confirmed canon! but when it’s Arator, nah dawg. Not canon. The model of the character in the flagship product of the setting, not canon.

We also dont know any details of the pilgrimage. Best not assume, this would also be a good question for the QA.

Dont do this.

Well, if we know nothing, why bring the thing if not to speculate? Your question is speculation just as much.

Why not? As long as I don’t try to pass it as canon, it’s totally fine to discuss how you fill up the canon blanks.

All high elf skins in the game are in the lighter spectrum of skins, yet you deny it.

Meanwhile, a placeholder model in the lack of an accurate one is presented as undeniable canon, despite it being changed multiple times over the years and having a different depiction in a recent canon comic.

Cherrypicked evidence is still misinformation.

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Because we have seen the pilgrimage, and we can assume that they habe the opportunity to utilize the Sunwell based upon what we see. Everything else is conjecture that has not been dived on.

I mean…thats debateable.

“I’m not strawmanning”

Lol.

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So you’re alright with half Elves looking like High Elves?

Cool then, let’s get some Half Elves. I’d love Half Elves that look like Arator.

Horde doesn’t have any half Elves so this doesn’t step on Horde toes not one but nope.

Arator is a half elf , let’s get his model for playable High Elves then for the Alliance.

Thanks for supporting this endeavor.

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We’re in BFA now though and we don’t see the pilgrimages at all. By some people’s logic this means the pilgrimages aren’t happening anymore and all the people there, including the Sunwell guards have all died and don’t exist anymore.

Because where are they in BFA? Hmmm?

I’m using Fyre logic btw if it wasn’t obvious.

You shouldn’t use that logic, it tends to be poorly thought out and flawed.

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“I can’t argue let me mock you instead lol”.
You don’t come off as witty, just childish.
Heck you have done it for the last three posts now. Are you sure you’re not upset? You’re just strawmanning everywhere, because you knew exactly what Galilee was pointing out and you intentionally misconstrued it.

I had to remove it because two people took me serious.

Pilgrimage = not living near the Sunwell = much less exposure

Plus, only some blood elves changed eye color, it’s not even affecting all of them equaly.