High Elf Allied Race Megathread (Continuation)

Those where built 30 years ago.

Doesn’t change the fact they became corrupted, altering their skin and eye colors.

And yes, they still use Fel.

Only Priest and Paladins get the gold eyes lorewise.

There’s 4 varieties. 5 if you count Dark Rangers and San’layn as different types. 6 if you count Felblood Elves.

Just look at them and there lore.

High Elves are an Alliance version.

And as you said, we have Void Elves, it’s not a Horde exclusive model anymore.

You are misunderstanding the sentence. The Devs said that it is possible for Void Elves to get Flesh Colored Skin. This means it’s not that big an issue as people are saying.

And Blood Elves have redder skin colors from the Fel Corruption.

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Arcane has been codified to glow pink/magenta in game for a couple expansions now (Blue for Frost, Red for Fire, Pink for Arcane) we have seen all the schools of magic move to more concise looks the latest expansions, Void itself really getting a unique look during Legion.

IMO Thoridal being shown in pink glow, as well as Vereesa channeling it so, is just following the latest portrayal of arcane energy, and I really doubts it means anything else.

Arcane is magenta/pink as of late, so revisiting a concept from 2008 (Thori’dal) and using the 2019 aesthetic conventions is simply expected.

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By high elves loyal to the alliance who were estranged from their blood elf people for 30 years.
Meanwhile, after 7 years high elves suddenly completely and irrevocably change but do not display this change? On the other hand it is claimed repeatedly?
You broke your quote by the way.

Why are you shifting from your argument point? Now you’re saying they were corrupted, which they weren’t because the one’s that were corrupted by fel are known as Fel Blood elves and they look drastically different. They are by Kiljaeden’s throne.
As for using Fel, nope. Incorrect.
As for priests and paladins only getting golden eyes, false again.
Sunwell is also lore wise, cleansing the elves, sooooo your point would be moot even if it was true.
Which it isn’t.

Red herring.

I read the lore and seen them, you are incorrect.

So, why should the alliance get a redundant model for a race that isn’t even their core one? I like how I poked holes in each statement you made, and you constantly twisted away from it.

So, why would you need an entirely separate race known as high elves, if the option possibly exists for void elves? Shouldn’t you request more customization options?

only turned their eyes green.

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https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/wyrmrest-accord/fyrebusche

i see none of these traits

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The people that believe that nothing will change, effectively, for them nothing will change :slightly_frowning_face: :expressionless:

Nop, Lore :blush:
We wanna play Queldorei High elves, Alliance elves, Elves that lives with Wildhammer in hinterlands, elves that share a lot of things with the Alliance and the Rangers Elves of Allerian stronghold,
but, that’s not really important for me…
A lot of friends wanna play Queldorei, that’s the reason why I support this request. :blush:

Hi.
Yes, they’re the same type of elves, Queldorei and Sindorei are High elves, but at the same time Ren’dorei and San’layn are High elves too, My question is:
Why we cant play with elves of respective faction?
There’s a lot of ideas to add Quel’dorei (and Sanlayn).

Remember that we have our High elves (Queldorei) community, we are Latam, we have 3 server only, so we’re a little community, but we have a lot of ideas to share :blush:

Greetings from Chile :chile:

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the hut with a few elves in the hinterlands dont even use magic in any capacity and might be more isolationist then traditional high elves. the allerian stronghold elves are probably dead if they actually stayed put. there is really just a few hunters left in the sc and maybe a couple mages

over the course of the past fourteen years alliance high elves have stood out because of their extreme rarity in game. and as the narrative has progressed, more and more high elves have died from a population that simply cannot afford to lose anyone. theramore destroyed, a lodge destroyed, the SC losing members in the three kirin tor military campaigns they were involved in and we finally end up with FOUR actual alliance high elves being added in BFA. of course two of them are nameless so we could have seen them before

fact is, even back in vanilla they were rare and in vanilla they were at their peak. all downhill since

americans and english are two distinct groups now, but it took centuries of time and multiple generations to arrive at that point. the blood elves and the high elves, a race whose individuals live for millenia, have been separated for thirteen years. your comparison does not work

Apparently the Ren’Dorei are not considered thalassian elf and neither are Sanlayn.
The ren’dorei no longer are attuned to the sunwell the way the thalassian elves are, so they are exceptions.
The sanlayn are undead, which makes them drastically different. Think of how forsaken were humans, but now they are undead.
Weird I know, but its enough based on WoW lore.
Hell, Sylvanas is also her own type since she is a banshee. It gets weird.

Now as for the reason. Primarily because it would be redundant due to reusing the model on a non-core faction, and it would also blur the faction lines. I know void elves use the same model different textures, but it is enough to denote a difference and the lore fits these differences as well.

I wish blood elves had tentacle hair…or fire hair…would be so baws.

There is no such thing as different “races” in humans.
We’re all human despite different appearances.

The San’layn are not comparable to Forsaken in terms of undeathness

One’s a vampire with a mostly intact body, the other’s a rotting corpse

no.

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Except it didn’t take years. The people who sailed west were criminals,nobodys or aristocrats looking for a new future or looking for ways to make more money. They were already different before they sailed. It took oppression from their government to make it official.

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They’re still undead compared to their living counterpart. Which was my point.

Yes.
This is world of warcraft, and factions are a strong selling point for this MMO in a place saturated with non-faction based MMOs.

Funny because it looks like you aren’t taking your own advice here.

Oh it was very temporary. There’s a conversation he had with a fan where he clearly said, “just because they’re not in bfa doesn’t mean they won’t be in wow ever”, “the door hasn’t closed”.

Sounds pretty temporary to me.

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Guys, you are losing the thread to the circular arguments again.

Let’s not complicate things, it’s pretty simple: high elves are in the Alliance, we want to play as them.

That’s all that is to it, and every argument against it is just to obfuscate the obvious.

So, to keep this thread positive, here comes again the high elves in Stormwind.

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If giving the Horde Lordaeron, Paladins, skinny pointy-eared humans, and actual honest-to-god Night Elves didn’t blur the factions lines, allowing Alliance players to play the race that has been a part of it since before World of Warcraft won’t.

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Blood Elves are the ones who changed.

What? They where corrupted by Fel, it’s part of their loree.

You can see it ingame.

Blizzard said so.

Players can use the option but in lore only Paladins and Priest get them.

Not when it shows your point is meaningless.

You clearly didn’t. Or weren’t paying attention.

Why not?

In what way?

Because they are different from what we have playable on either faction and have their own story and characters to get involved in.

And Void Elves with normal skin would just be Void Elves with normal skin. It would not have anything that make High Elves their own thing.

It also changed their skin color.

It’s sizable in lore and they have close ties with the Wildhammer and Draenei.

Headcanon.

Also they lasted against the Dark Horde and the Legion for 20 years. They where some of the best of Silvermoon’s Armies.

Headcanon.

More headcanon.

There are tons of High Elf stories to the point they have become a consistent theme in the Alliance.

The fact that they are showing them over the new BFA races says something.

The literally added thousands more since Vanilla with Allerian Stronghold and Dalaran.

There’s a reason they no longer list percentages in Chronicles.

This^

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that a few high elves arent blood elves is irrelevant, the option is available and present on the horde

for proof load up the game, go to character creator and select blood elf then click the more info box

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Those don’t count for what we are asking at all. Completely different version.

Just because Blood Elves are a type of High Elves doesn’t mean they share the same fantasy.

They don’t even consider themselves High Elves anymore and hate the ones who do.

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They went through a lot of work to make nightborne as visually different from night elves as possible. To the point or orchestrating an entire storyline about how different they were.
Void elves didn’t get nearly as much work as they should have, though the intent was to give a very different version of a similar race.

You can’t apply the logic though, because that was a one for one trade, and given the issues it has brought up within the community, I am unsure if Blizzard is willing to do it. Particularly when you have a minority group saying “Void elves werent good enough, we want high elves too!”.

in what meaningful capacity are they different from high elves?
Vampirism? Many blood elves regretted doing such because they respected nature. It is in the very starter zone.

Corruption=/= contamination. Maghar orcs are the same as regular orcs. Again though, moot point because of the sunwell.

Maybe if you’re looking at old zones that haven’t been updated.
Or warlocks.

[quote=“Drede-cairne, post:3506, topic:182516”]
Blizzard said so.[/quote]
Cite it please.

Cite it again please, there is nothing to suggest it given that the sunwell is arcane/holy and ALL thalassian elves are subject to it.

It’s a red herring because it has no relevance to the discussion, nor does it refute anything.

UH HUH. NU UH.

not a core race.
Already have a model variant.
The version you want is playable on horde side therefore giving meaning to decisions.

They are playable on horde.
Their story revolve around blood elf storyline.
Their characters give out quests in alliance.

nothing in lore states this fact outside felblood elves who are completely different.

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