High Elf Allied Race Megathread (Continuation)

Alamara-goldrinn · May 25, 2019, 5:34pm

Which included many high elves, I must add.

Azgoroth-lethon · May 25, 2019, 5:34pm

Ion has said that the blood elves == high elves. Blizzard is the narrator of the story. There is no difference. You calling out people as trolls because they disagree with you is trolling. All your doing is making it more apparent that the pro shoehorned alliance high elf crowd has to resort to name calling because your proposals don’t have much of a leg to stand on.

Galilee-barthilas · May 25, 2019, 5:35pm

Well, not really. Blood elves have green eyes because they used fel crystals to power their arcane structures and the residual fel energy tainted them, not because they fed on fel energy. They consumed arcane energy from stuff like mana wyrms.

A few blood elves definitely did consume fel energy from fel crystals, but not many.

Bloodfall-blackwater-raiders · May 25, 2019, 5:36pm

He didn’t, he said Blood elves are a flavor of High elves, which is technically correct.

I disagree with Lydon, reno and star but they are not trolls. You and Frye are

Somand-proudmoore · May 25, 2019, 5:36pm

I get where you’re coming from, though personally I prefer my Blood Elf Mage as Fire spec since I find it fits the Blood Elf theme more.

I just feel that no hair colours should be locked behind classes, especially when Blizzard keeps taunting us with NPCs who break this rule.

Alamara-goldrinn · May 25, 2019, 5:36pm

Why people only bring what part of what Ion actually said. Same as Metzen.

We’ve already covered that, more than once:

Yes, Chris say “blood elves are our high elves”, and then proceeds to say how blood elves evolved from high elves.

“Blood elves serve as our example of what happens to a group of people when they just won’t stop playing with it [magic] or abusing its power.”

“Illidan taught the blood elves - the now named blood elves - how to syphon demonic energies, how to syphon ambient arcane energies from air, and in doing so he damned the last vestiges of the high elven race to retain their magic addiction but feed it with really unwholesome energies.”

There you have it, the moment the blood elves and high elves turned into two different things. He does not goes into it, but we know there’s still high elves that didn’t take that path, didn’t rename themselves and remained in the Alliance , and thus are not covered in that speech. It’s amazing that you refuse to see the obvious.

High elves and blood elves are not the same thing. They share an origin, but their paths diverged ten years (in-lore time) ago.

Even Ion acknowledged it in his famous “blood elves are pretty much high elves”:

“Basicly, blood elves kind of are high elves. [they have] different eye color, different backstory , [in terms of] you know, their different relationship to magic , but that’s it”

There you have it, Ion saying high elves have a different culture. Ion’s entire comparison between blood elves and high elves is about appearance. “If you want to be fair skinned, tall, majestice elf”. If that’s the problem, transform them, damn it! But retain what makes them different, which is the backstory that he himself acknowledges.

Instead, Blizzard transformed blood elves into void elves. But we didn’t ask for blood elves, we asked for high elves. And void elves fundamentaly contradict that very same “different backstory” and “relationship to magic” that makes high elves unique.

Fyrebusche-wyrmrest-accord · May 25, 2019, 5:37pm

i honestly expect hair color to be next after eye color customization

Lancelot-lightnings-blade · May 25, 2019, 5:37pm

Both at once would be nice.

Avarie-farstriders · May 25, 2019, 5:38pm

I have blood elves already, thanks. I would also like to play the elves who never changed their names to blood elves and have lived separately from them for quite a while now. I want the high elves I’ve seen working alongside the alliance throughout the entirety of wow. I appreciate blood elves and their lore too much to pretend they are the same thing, just as I respect the high elves too much to pretend they are the same thing.

They made different choices and followed different paths, and that is both interesting and significant to those of us who want a chance to explore the side that hasn’t been open to us previously. It also would make my belf side happy because it would inevitably bring blood elves to the forefront, as well as the void elves.

Fyrebusche-wyrmrest-accord · May 25, 2019, 5:40pm

the problem with this is that it is a contradiction. blood elves are high elves. therefore, the only way to differentiate an alliance high elf from what a blood elf is to make it a lot less a high elf. this is what was done with void elves and while I feel void elves don’t damage the faction boundary, they are JUST about there

blizzard created the void elves to be as close they could to blood/high Elves without crossing that red line. a variant that was closer still would be too close, it would violate the faction boundary and the sanctity of the blood elves

Êadweard-moon-guard · May 25, 2019, 5:41pm

You don’t even know what are you talking about, do you? Natural elves eyes are like the humans ones, pupils etc the colors of the elven eyes come from the Sunwell. Blue when the sunwell was made of arcane power, nothing or white when Kalethas destroyed the well and green when blood elves liked to suck demon/fel magic. Now golden because the Sunwell is made of Light because of the Naaru sacrifice.

Galilee-barthilas · May 25, 2019, 5:41pm

They didn’t, though.

Bloodfall-blackwater-raiders · May 25, 2019, 5:42pm

Just ignore her. She’s just a troll. It doesn’t matter what sources and truth you site to her she will deny it with her own head canon

Azgoroth-lethon · May 25, 2019, 5:42pm

Except that they aren’t high elves. They’re appropriating the name. It’s like if Germans renamed themselves to Romans, and a few Germans ran off the Switzerland and kept calling themselves Germans. The people who live in the land of Germans, who call Berlin their capitol, are who define what it is to be German and what their people should be called.

Blizzard has already built you a side faction of high elves that are thematically and culturally different in void elves. So enjoy.

Muir-kelthuzad · May 25, 2019, 5:42pm

High Elves are already part of the Alliance, just unplayable. There is no faction boundary to be crossed. It’s just like how Dark Irons became playable after being in the Alliance since Cataclysm.

No faction boundary is being crossed.

Anastasia-argent-dawn · May 25, 2019, 5:43pm

I am here showing my support for high elves for the alliance! I will never stop supporting you or playable high elves!

Muir-kelthuzad · May 25, 2019, 5:45pm

I feel like anyone who brings up the same already drawn out arguments such as,

“Ion said Blood Elves are High Elves”
“They would cross the faction line”
“Blood Elves are High Elves so go play them”

etc etc, should be ignored. Not because what they’re saying isn’t a valid opinion of theirs, but because it just leads to lots of rehashed posts where people are saying the same thing over and over that’s been discussed to death.

This thread wouldn’t occur as many posts if the circular discussions stopped and the trolls were ignored. And I feel that would be much better overall.

Fyrebusche-wyrmrest-accord · May 25, 2019, 5:45pm

high elves are not an alliance race on par with what everyone thinks of as an alliance race (humans, dwarves, night elves, gnomes, draenei, worgen, lightforged draenei, dark iron dwarves and void elves). you implicitly admit this by stating they should return ; recognising that the high elves left the alliance, renamed themselves the blood elves and that they now form a part of the horde. after all, you can only return somewhere once you have left it

Avarie-farstriders · May 25, 2019, 5:46pm

Uhm, they are the original high elves, how could they possible be appropriating the name? It’s the name they’ve had all along. They chose not to rename themselves to blood elves, just as they chose not to suck mana from living creatures in order to survive. They chose to remain with their allies in the humans, and in the case of quel’danil the wildhammer dwarves. Blood elves came second, not first, so high elves haven’t taken anything from them.

Galilee-barthilas · May 25, 2019, 5:46pm

That’s not a great example, for 1000 years Germans did call themselves Roman and the Swiss Germans do call themselves German.

Please tell me that’s the joke and I’m making myself look like a tit with this post.