High Elf Allied Race Megathread (Continuation)

Renotarshil-malganis · October 27, 2019, 7:34am

All true indeed.

Pepino-caelestrasz · October 27, 2019, 8:08am

So I was doing some reading/googling and apparently theirs an unofficial high elf mod for wow? Does anyone know much about this??

Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord · October 27, 2019, 8:13am

That’s the sort of thing you don’t want to know about unless you want to get banned.

Pepino-caelestrasz · October 27, 2019, 9:10am

Ohhh then disregard haha

wow.gamepedia.cm/Quel%27Danil_Lodge

"The high elves that live in the lodge are referred as “Highvale” elves.[8] This could mean that Quel’Danil means “High Vale”, given that quel means “high” in Thalassian. After the loss of the Sunwell, the Quel’Danil elves decided to stop practicing magic altogether.[9] "

They friends with Wildhammers perfect set up for ditched magic for aid of elements and learnt to be Shamans

Mythlor-proudmoore · October 27, 2019, 10:34am

Good points but I would argue that the same could have been said about Nightborne. They have a different model that is playable.

This kinda shows that they werent developed with the idea of being an AR just yet, pointing out that they were perhaps also part of that late change of plans.

It’s also much harder to change the story once it’s done as it involves far more variables such as voice acting, so often you end up seeing lots of remnants and loose ends that dont make sense

Lorithyn-agamaggan · October 27, 2019, 12:44pm

I ended up buying the game full price. I’d like to support Obsidian as much as possible

Callistus-wyrmrest-accord · October 27, 2019, 1:26pm

I’d play a fox druid.

Guzzle-barthilas · October 27, 2019, 1:26pm

Did you at least buy 3rd party for them dank discounts?

Guzzle-barthilas · October 27, 2019, 1:28pm

Callistus-wyrmrest-accord · October 27, 2019, 1:29pm

Storm Elves would be good at this.

Though honestly, the name, “Storm Elf” is pretty terrible, and doesn’t get better with other words, “Thunder Elf, Lightning Elf.”

Callistus-wyrmrest-accord · October 27, 2019, 1:33pm

I feel like option 3 is missing.

The art team was like, “Then Alleria turns purple.” and someone was like, “That’s so dope lets make a whole group of elves like that.”

and so they did it, then got crushed by a Q&A.

Bourbonboxer-lightbringer · October 27, 2019, 1:40pm

Except read my logic in bold at the end. My premise was that both Broken and Hgh Elves were in line as ARs (since they were both from TBC and prominently known fan favorites).

Bourbonboxer-lightbringer · October 27, 2019, 1:43pm

You literally could say this about any of the AR leaders outside of KulTiran, Zandalari, and DI

Callistus-wyrmrest-accord · October 27, 2019, 1:47pm

Yeah, but the whole premise assumes that they’re really short sighted. Like, they could have easily implemented High Elves into legion with a reputation if they were interested in it.

But we know from Metzen that the last thing he decided for WoW was Anduin’s mass resurrection scene in BFA’s opening, and he’d been gone for years at that point.

Blizzard’s WoW team isn’t that good at switching directly that quickly. You can see what a pinch having to redo the Heart of Azeroth did to them.

And, you know, the same, we knew that the Vulpera and Mechagnomes were coming since the beginning of BFA.

So they’re just not that agile or shortsighted.

Mythlor-proudmoore · October 27, 2019, 2:04pm

In my opinion, the best way to do High Elves is to have them reunite rather than remain a group of disparate populations.

This has been mentioned a few times, but High Elves from the Hinterlands could very well serve as a justification for High Elf shaman.

Not only would this bring High Elves to the fold, but it would also give us the first elf shaman, making them truly unique in this regard, much like Void Elves bringing the first elven warlocks into the Alliance.

Mythlor-proudmoore · October 27, 2019, 2:08pm

This is not true and you know it.

Mayla and the Highmountain had a whole zone of lore development.

Nightborne… don’t even have to explain this one.

Lightforged at least got a zone and some development even if it was irrelevant to the grand scheme of things.

Vulpera got a zone before their introduction.

Mechagnomes got a zone before their introduction.

Void Elves have nothing.

Alamara-goldrinn · October 27, 2019, 2:09pm

Whatever Blizzard plans to implement, it seeds the way into the game beforehand. The fact is that there’s more high elf story in Legion than void elf story. If the void elves were really planned from the start (and we know they weren’t, as Danuser clearly said they were created after Alleria’s story was done), they’d have been seeded all over Legion’s patches, and they’d have their own reputation.

Void elves were created so late that even BfA leveling content had nothing for them. And they are so undeveloped that the devs couldn’t find any role for them in the patch cycle. They got a small role in the 8.0 war campaign, but really, that’s very little. They faded into the background as soon as that cameo was finished.

It was a huge wasted potential.

Mythlor-proudmoore · October 27, 2019, 2:11pm

It’s not a matter of wasted potential, as much as not having much potential to grow into.

They don’t really fit into the Alliance (or any faction for that matter) and would have been more interesting as a third party.

At the moment, they’re just undergoing the same thing Night Elves had to go through for more than a decade… being turned into High Elf lite that have little personality of their own.

As you said, they wasted what little possibilities they had going for them… I would have expected them to be the main instigators of the conflict with N’zoth… yet… they’ve done nothing

Callistus-wyrmrest-accord · October 27, 2019, 2:14pm

The largest issue Void Elves have is most likely population.

It’s incongruous if they deploy in large numbers.

But, they make good characters. So while I don’t really expect to hear about the Void Elf race at all in the future, hopefully some Void Elf people start running around.

Alamara-goldrinn · October 27, 2019, 2:30pm

I have worgen feelings for void elves. Worgen were abandoned as soon as their starting zone was finished.

Yes, they appeared a little here and there, and Genn and the gilnean military started getting some attention on Legion and BfA, but there’s still some basic lore questions about worgen left unanswered.

The heritage questline in 8.3 is the first time in a long while that we get to explore worgen a bit, yet it still leaves a lot of questions. The heritage quest is more about what means to be gilnean than to be a worgen. Heck, the “lesson” learned is that Gilneans are not just worgen, and that you don’t need to be a worgen.

So, where does it leave the cursed ones? What’s their real status in their society? How do gilneans see the cursed ones? How do worgen cope with their curse? How passing the curse onwards is seen?

Void elves are even worse because they couldn’t even have an interesting introduction. I feel like they are just being abandoned and left “as is”. They just are. They exist in whatever numbers the plot demands. They have whatever powers the story requires. The saddest part is that well-developed races are the ones developers use the most, because their plot relevance comes naturally. That’s why you see nightborne and highmountain tauren being relevant more often, they just fit with little effort.

So, void elves’ll appear here and there in the background, but are doomed to never get the spotlight just because they need effort to be fleshed out. They will always be replaced by whatever other race fits more naturally in the plot.