this is a crazy take
the guy one shot because 1 of 24 cooldowns werent used 5 seconds after CA went off
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Thatâs what I saidâŠ? Hello?
my response to the one shot isnât directed towards you as much as it is the thread in general
thinking 0% haste equates to 0 dps outside of a go is just a crazy misunderstanding of how stats work
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Also, in general, I feel like people misunderstand how stats work and feel that a class should be ALL haste or ALL mastery without looking at the math behind diminishing returns on effective values.
Youâre focused too hard on my mentioning his stats. Obviously that isnât why the one shot occurred itâs Coordinated assault and maybe wonky pet crits in pvp but Iâm just pointing out that heâs fully leaned into the one tap attempt with coordinated assault, after which Vers / mastery is a dps loss compared to the standard Bigmex stat split
yeah i mean, my response on why he died wasnât really directed at you
haste doesnât benefit his one shot is why he isnât any haste. itâs not as though haste is this necessary % to have the class function in a way so as to do damage between goes
laros failed for sure, and flanking damage should be redistributed in a way that you arenât keen to actually drop all haste and stack so many modifiers - itâs just poor design
the guyâs still going to mow you outside of CDs like any standard surv would⊠or wouldnât. rationalizing the one shot should be left purely to CDs because thatâs what laros failed
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Okay, but thatâs true of literally every single class not splitting stats in terms of raw dps and also isnât necessarily how it plays out in practice.
If weâre looking at a 5-10 minute sim dps, a relatively even distribution of stats is almost always better as theyâre multiplicative together.
Ignoring state weights for a moment, letâs pretend we have 10 stat points to allocate, each with a 1% dps increase. If I do 9 is haste and 1 in mastety, im getting 1.01*1.09 or a 10.9% increase. If I split those evenly to 5 and 5, Iâm looking at a 10.25% increase.
This is further multiplied by the fact that there are 4 stats, not just 2. However, we see that going full haste vs mastery is NOT a super sgnificant difference overall, and that splitting is more damage regardless.
At the end of the day, dps is very different from effective damage, and I think that everyone agrees that anyone dying 100-0 in a global is bad design and should be reworked, regardless of how easy or hard the setup is.
Base flanking damage came up alongside a bunch of other changes to the class and pack leader hero tree. Pack leader gives you pet damage and better ways to extend mongoose bite windows now, which makes spearhead good, and the +crit damage portion of it is what stacks too well with all of the other +pet damage modifiers that stack up to make your pets portion of the attack hit so hard.
There hasnât been a reason to use spearhead yet this expansion because other builds have worked better. Itâs now probably too good for how often you get to use it, and halving the crit damage portion would bring it more in line with other similar effects.
You could go all in on stats first ssn and not have any DRâs btw. This person is actually full mastery 0 haste. Globals are 1.5.
I donât agree. There is legit a 1 shot video made every ssn where every class can 1 shot you in maybe the highest being like 5-6 secs. The player in the video acted as a target dummy it would be bad game design and feel awful if you press all your cds and people canât even tell.
why is every surv trying to defend this one shot lol. It shouldnât be one shotting and must get nerfed thereâs no debate lol. same way arms shouldnât be 60-0ing people hence it got nerfed.
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Haste is not valued as high in pvp as some may think for non-casters. As some of the dps comes from weapon autos/uptime. Mastery also got buffed for survival making it the best stat in pve as well for overall damage. This death was not surprising at all if the players in the videoknew anything about surv. Calling for nerfs due to bad play seems bad for the game. Not that its what you were implying.
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If the survival hunter walked into the arena first global no buttons pressed or got random procs and 1 shot you they 100p should be nerfed no questions asked.
If you are in full control of your character unlike most of the other classes that can 1 shot you(Rogue,feral, warrior, lock) and they have been popping cds for 5 secs and you die. I actually do not see a problem why did you not react to press a single button. In your logic, the hunter should press all of his cds and the warrior and priest shouldnât trade anything he should just go to 20%. That sounds like peak game design make sure you send that to blizz.
thatâs the thing though they can do that lol. The hunter in the clip has done it in shuffles. And kennie also posted of another hunter doing it off rip. tuesday is just going to be surv one shot city.
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This is just a troll comment. This new spearhead and old spearhead are used in pve and pvp. Maybe you are saying m+ but in m+ you still wouldnt use spearhead. PL is baseline like a 20% dps loss over sentinel. This player is playing to try and 1 shot every min and is rewarded by bad play. If a defensive is pressed to counter this he will fall behind and damage by a wide margin especially against a class like arms warrior.
Sorry, Surv cannot walk into the arena and 1 shot you off their mount thats cap. I already told you exactly how long the build up takes and how obvious it is about whats about to happen.
Solo Shuffle where players are known for their great play. Yep thanks. That is the same player on a different character as well. Where again no defensives are pressed when a surv is bursting that seems like he deserved to win. Imagine if somehow there was a way to track enemy cds and then to simply press a defensive or line the hunter during the time he can actually â1 shotâ you.
An MM hunter is pressing trueshot I think the best play for you is to stand in the open and not disarm him. That would mitigate the most damage. A lock is spam chaos bolting you make sure you dont press reflect either.
ahh your willy I knew it. still trolling i see. other than your troll there is no universe where a class should be one shotting. nothing can justify a one shot lol
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I donât think anyone ran spearhead last season?
For pvp unless you are talking solely like me and another hunter for eu for pvp everyone else ran spearhead. For pve almost every fight thats majority single target they ran spearhead. The only bracket they would run spearhead is m+ and thats just because fury of the eagle is better for majority of trash in dungeons.
Sorry, for speaking logically to you and expecting you to be a decent player. Keep up the good work. I cant believe that guy pressed all of his abilities and killed that guy through 0 defensives. Im glad we can agree that seems CRAZY.