Hey Blizzard please do NOT add undead night elves as a horde race. At some point it's enough

You mean like they butchered nearly all character??? It isn’t night elf specific.

Again, it isn’t alliance specific. All old race a being writing as dumb and inferior to human.

Stop taking everything bad that happened to night elf and make it exclusive. Near everyone are suffering from the bad writing.

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Dude come on.

The entire zone basically screamed it. The whole time I was in Suramar, it was basically thinking “Oh, so this is what they want to do with the Wretched but never will.”

https://de.wowhead.com/news=295073/amara-lunastar-and-jenafur-notable-npcs-from-8-2-5-ptr-build-31812

The speculation doesn’t have/require a post. It is something that is likely to happen and I want to prevent that, do you get that?

Nobody made a video about that (atleast not that I know of it). But you can also check out some of the comments in this reddit post https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/d3q5t7/looks_like_theres_another_raised_night_elf/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

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Just wait, Sylvanas is going to raise Nightborne bodies and tell Thaly they are just cannon fodder to protect her own people. Thaly will just lie down and take it.

Sure, the blood elves/nightborne thing makes sense, but so many of them are old enough to also remember turning from Night Elves or having ancestors who are Nelves, on top of that probably still living relatives who are Night Elves (You telling me there weren’t two sisters where one was outside of the bubble, or parent/child). I dunno, I just think they could had a better reason.

And Thaly so far hasn’t had a solo scene with these three or even talked to them, far as we know. They probably be rude to her.

Perhaps a new DK customization :thinking:.

In any case, with this aside

I’d kind of have to agree with this… A lot of characters suffer from some poorly written stuff…

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Leave it to the HMP to come up with the worst possible scenario.

Wait is the OP the alt of a certain night elf DK? Because that sounds like something that person would do.

Imagine thinking still that blood elves are not legitimately Horde. Snickers

But anyway. I couldn’t care less about night elves, but the last thing they need to do it’s to double down on the terrible move they pulled when they decided to forget that they established Val’kyr were only able to raise hoomans.

Yeah, everyone is.

So imagine how jaw-droppingly bad the NE writing is where it makes them STAND OUT.

Night Elves were their own unmingled faction. They got a lot of lore exposure and attention in the WC games. Whereas most of the races outside humans really had to have thier lore created through WoW, Night Elves were fairly established.

And then Blizzard chunked it in the bin.

Nah, due. They’re Undead. You’re kinda saying that Forsaken are actually an Alliance race because they’re human. Undead is its own thing, which is a Horde thing. Unlike Blood Elfs.

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Why would she risk her alliance like that when it was just made? Sure maybe later, but even then that really depends on Thaly doesn’t it? Because, again… Tyrande has shown she wants nothing to do with Thaly and her people, and the Blood elves have been more than welcoming and are the people who recruited Thaly. Who…also disagree with what Sylvanas does a lot. Therefore, if a majority of the Horde disagree with Sylvanas the same way they did with Garrosh, it wouldn’t really chalk up to much.

If Thaly felt she belonged more with people who have a similar story as her people, and the very people she thought were allies decided to give the cold shoulder and insult her people, why wouldn’t she go with the welcoming people?

As far as we know sure, but we can’t just assume just because those characters are a bit more rude than most that they’d chose to be rude to their allies. Sylvanas may come off sarcastic and sometimes rude, but to my knowledge she hasn’t once made an effort to be rude to Thaly in any way, nor would she probably care to since she’s got more things on her mind…like killing the entire world.

Night Elves were immune to the undead plague, and there was no other notable undead Elves until Sylvanas’s magical macguffin powers.

It’s a force.

We don’t need more elves. One per faction was fine. Two is overkill. Three is really pushing it.

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Eh, I mean… It’s clear blizzard has went out of their way to try and make it show that Blood elves are indeed their own thing. You see this with their Heritage armor quest. They are still their own race, and have nothing to do with the Alliance anymore.

Edit: It just seems that way, because yes they are still high elves as the Devs say, but they aren’t ‘High elves’ anymore. They got rid of that title quite some time ago.

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Side note

Honestly, I understand how elven races being introduced has gotten tiring. I myself am even waiting on other Allied races to see what they come up with and the diversity… But, no one is stating elven races still can’t be a thing, and honestly elven races could very well be introduced after all the CR see their counter parts and we see far more diversity. It just so happened they introduced elves first due to Legion, and perhaps other reasons.

I for one wouldn’t mind any form of undead elven race, but would want it to be way more in the future and wanting different races to come out before then.

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So your speculations. “More and more speculations” as you put it are highlighting one elf that was datamined in 8.2.5’s PTR coding, which is actually speculated to possibly be a vampire for Hollow’s End.

…It’s one night elf. As Blizzard has said time and time again, one person is not a race / class combo make. There’s nothing here suggesting the night elves are going to have some kind of Horde presence or race.

You’re blowing things out of proportion. Datamining is, as other people have said time and time again, spoilers without context. We know nothing of this elf. All we know is her model, which can change, and that there’s some vampire text also in the batch which could be hers, or not hers.

Relax. Those reddit posts by the way are just normal people tossing out baseless comments as well. I read through those. You provided this information. I’m giving you a response based on the information. You’re trying to prevent something you have zero clue will actually happen.

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Lol, this guy. You think that the people that literally created the concept of the Alliance but are now dead are more of a Horde thing than a race that never actually joined the current Alliance.

Data mining is notoriously unreliable. Devs clean out their dats on a schedule of approximately never.

Usually what gets tossed in there is often private projects or prototypes that they wanted to see in their environment but aren’t actual relevant enough to the plot to worry about cleaning up.

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As I told you already. If they announce them, it’s already too late to prevent it. I know I’m unlikely to make a chance anyway, but if there’s a chance to make blizzard destroy night elves just a little bit less, I’ll gladly take it.

You also told me that I’m doing nothing but speaking from a biased opinion when all I did was said I wanted to see the information. Forgive me if I think your methods are a bit out there.

That aside, I still think you’re doing this in the wrong manner. A suggestion in game through the tools provided is how you get something done. Not making an over exaggerated and baseless forum post with zero information in your original post other than an empty claim.

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If you read the main part of Before the Storm, this is directly addressed by the Sylvanas/Anduin peace meeting in Arathi. There was a faction of Forsaken who wanted to reconnect and meet with the living relatives of their former lives, and were potentially considering leaving the Forsaken to go back home with them.

Sylvanas literally up and murdered them when she saw Calia Menethil there, and then slew Calia with a Black Arrow to prevent her resurrection. That’s why the Naaru ended up helping Anduin and Faol to bring her back as a Lightborne instead.

Blame the writers and the canon.

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I blame them alright.

I blame them for not being brave enough and pull a Poochie on Calia and say that she died one day on her way from Netherlight temple back to Azeroth or something.

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Holy hell, that would be hilarious. One hundred pages later in Before the Storm.

"While on her way home, Calia tripped. She fell, and landed in a vat of void juice, which didn’t agree well with her shenanigans. Negligent void elves moving purple goop from Telogrus to the lake for weekly maintenance were fired, and Calia sadly exploded.

The high king’s windows were properly scraped clean of light-forged goop, and he has since addressed the people. The humans of Stormwind held a service, but most were confused in the first place. Why honor a dead thing? Silly people."

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:confused: Honestly I just wish they didn’t do that with Calia at all, as in her showing up to the meeting thing ever. But, based off what she said I think Sylvanas planned on killing those humans anyway really. She said that them visiting their living family would give them hope, yada, yada… So, I think Calia was just a nail in the coffin a bit sooner than intended.

Calia in general shouldn’t have been there really.

Edit : Don’t get me wrong, I’m all fine and dandy with her wanting to get her very ruined city back and all… But, at least be a little smart about it :thinking:.