Heroics Plus, Queues, and Lack of Random Dungeon Finder

We’ve proven this to be false, several times.

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Doesn’t matter, he’ll keep dragging that line back out over and over and over and over and over…

and over

and over…

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On the bright side, at least he realized how bad an idea his 26g whine was.

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not hard to figure out what i was talking about champ. i have faith in you. youll get there.

No you havent.

All you have said is people dont invite you to a group for one reason or another, including the group being full. That doesnt stop you from making your own group. That doesnt stop you from walking into the dungeon.

Still a non answer. The only one gatekeeping you is yourself.

I’ll explain it again for you.

Gatekeeping is the act of limiting access to something - in this case, we’ll use a raid. If I go out and request to join your group because I fill the role, and you respond, “Your GS isn’t high enough.” That’s you gatekeeping, because you are limiting my access to said raid.

Gatekeeping doesn’t mean that a player has zero access to something. It means that a person’s actions limit that access, which is what happens when a group (or player) requires a specific gearscore.

Do you not know the actual definition of the word?

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Its not just about the raw gold. Its all the bonus rewards outside of forming the group that make rdf essentially non optional.

Im fine with a rdf that ONLY groups you. No bonus rewards tied to it at all and i am fine with it. But the grouping aspect isnt really what you want from rdf. You want the twleport, the bonus emblems/gold, the ability to ignore lockouts, the luck of the draw buff, exc.

Just admit the reason you want rdf isnt the grouping part of it because you seem to care a lot about not removing the non grouping aspects of it.

I want the teleport, because why wouldn’t we have it?

The others… you’re just putting words in our mouths.

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I love this strategy.

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No they arent. You are fully cappable of making your own raid group or joining a different group. They are limiting you from being in their group, not from doing the raid. Limiting you from doing the raid would be making you literally unable to get into the raid even if you made your own group or joined another.

If this is how you want to define as gatekeeping then you not being the right level is gatekeeping you. You not being a healer when they need healers is gatekeeping you, you being on a different realm is gatekeeping you, thr group already being full is gatekeeping you, exc.

Gatekeeping means they limit your access. They can do nothing to stop you from making your own group. They can do nothing to stop you from entering the instance. The only one truely able to limit you from doing these things is yourself.

You are not entitled to be invited to every group you try to join. If you want to be in every group you want to do content for, make your own group. Someone chosing to not invite you does not limit you from doing the content because you have the option to make your own group and do the content.

Dude, look up the definition before you try to argue.

Lol, oh my god, you might just be the stupidest person I’ve talked to… ever.

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It isnt related to group forming. So you want rdf for a reason other than group forming. You want it so you can put even less effort into the aspects of the game outside of the grouo forming effort.

If you dont like playing the game. Find a different game to play instead of demanding this game be made to cater to you.

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Dude, I’m done with you. Work on your intelligence, even just a tiny bit, and maybe we can have a conversation again someday. Until then, stupid’s no way to go through life, son.

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Them mot inviting you isnt limiting your access to the content.

You not making your own group is.

Not being invited to a group only limites your access to the content if you refuse to make your own group.

So stop gatekeeping yourself.

Work on your entitlement issue. You are not entitled to be invited to other peoples groups.

… I can’t even anymore.

Oh, he hasn’t begun to show you.

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“Make your own group”

Sure try seeing if people will join a group for anything when that group leader is sub 3K GS, hell sub 3.5K would even be rough. Doesn’t matter if that’s the level the content should be done at, most anyone will look at that and just think “oh they want a carry”.

Making your own groups is subject to the same level of potential gatekeeping behaviors as attempting to join one.

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Either get in guild runs for easy grouping or keep trying to form the group. It sucks, but you can’t force people to play with you. Most people running H+ now are geared raiders getting badges, once they buy their 1-2 pieces of tier they’re going to stop inflating the 5 man pug scene.