Heroic + Rewards

“Why is there a tank shortage”

“Why do tanks/heals get bonus loot grr”

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…then what are you arguing, exactly?

We (seem to) agree: bribing tanks/healers = less wait time for DPS.

We don’t need more DPS for PuGs, we need more tanks/healers.

The OP’s suggestion is to not make the reward tank/healer exclusive, but instead to offer it to everybody. Folks disagreed on the premise that tanks/healers need the incentive so that there are more tanks/healers. I’m saying that tanks/healers have incentive to join already, in the form of fast queues, so offering it to DPS doesn’t detract from that.

All that we need is a reason for people to continue to run dungeons after they have finished gearing. It doesn’t need to be exclusive to any particular role.

Most folks will naturally gravitate towards playing tank/healer roles if that is available to them in order to avoid longer waits for those rewards. This means you get less overall DPS and more tanks/healers.

So let me get this right. You want the tanks incentive for being a dime a dozen dps?

Lmao bro it could be the last week of wrath and I’d still instantly find a group as tank

There is never a shortage of dps.

“But overgeared dps won’t run them!” We do to inflate our details egos all the time.

Tldr:you’re not entitled to the bags for being a dps

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It isnt, theyre just entitled. Its a common theme around these parts.

Its usually people who dont even play the game and will leave after 4 weeks who have the strongest sense of entitlement too, posting on a retail lvl 45 lawl.

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There’s definitely a strong sense of entitlement in this thread… but it’s not coming from DPS players, lol.

That’s not the problem though, the problem is the small amount of people willing to tank/heal.

Im sold, put in group finder. Delete the bribe bag. These dps think there is no queue times. Enjoy friends. SMH

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I think people are sharing their honest experiences with tanking for pugs. You have had different experiences, good for you. Its not entitlement, its an explanation as to why one wouldn’t queue as a tank if every class got a bribe bag. You just don’t like the honesty.

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I believe this is where we disagree.

I’m saying tanks/healers aren’t joining runs they get everything they need from those dungeons quite quickly and currently have no reason to go back.

You’re saying that they don’t tank/heal because they simply can’t be bothered with PuGs.

Is that an accurate assessment?

Then how do you not realize the goodie bag is meant to solve this issue :man_facepalming:

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I said above, but I’m a tank too. This isn’t a case of me arguing as a DPS to get a reward too. This is case of me realizing that, as a tank, I’m going to have triple (if not more) opportunity to get these rewards than DPS, so I already have enough incentive. Why not give it to them too, they just don’t get as much as we do.

If you want to wait longer for your bags, that’s on you I guess. Most folks are probably likely to just switch to a role that gets them a group faster though.

Right back at ya, fella.

How are you not getting that adding a reward for all players gives everybody a reason to run dungeons, regardless of whether or not they’ve gotten all their gear, and because tanks/healers have faster queues, people will be more inclined to play those roles.

The problem is solved! *mystical wavy magic hands*

:roll_eyes:

Again, no, the bribe gets more tanks and healers to PuG. This will address the problem: long wait times for DPS.

There is no DPS shortage, so they don’t need an incentive to PuG.

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Its intended to help PUGS. Again, if I can just roll with my buds and get a bag w/potential mount as a dps, why would I tank for a pug group? Which in my experience isn’t nearly as enjoyable as playing with my friends?

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How is what I said different than what you said?

I am the player they are trying to incentivize, I promise Im not lying to you about what I would choose to do if the loot bags went to all roles.

So your saying a dps should be rewarded for standing in fire and forcing the healer oom every dungeon because they were present?

Nobody is going to wait longer tank wise. For every one geared dps that wont run them. There’s 5 that will because they’re bored

(I’m one of them)

I respond to this here… and I think you’re right, but that’s going to be true regardless of whether or not the reward is offered to tanks/healers only, or everybody. What’s stopping you from just rolling with your buds now and splitting the contents of the reward bag with them?

You edited your post after I responded to this instead of what I quoted above. Let’s pretend that Blizzard somehow magically figures out how to detect a PuG from a premade so that the reward is only available to pugs.

In that scenario, why does someone else getting the same reward you do prevent you from wanting that reward? You’re already getting it at a much higher rate than they are.

The wait for DPS to find a group keeps getting longer, due to fewer and fewer tanks/healers. Do you agree?

If so, we need a way to incentivize MORE tanks and healers to join PuGs, right?

How does rewarding DPS bring in more tanks and healers?

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