Heroic + Rewards

Wouldn’t making rewards be available to all roles still entice tanks/healers to run them?

A tank or healer would still have the chance at obtaining the mounts and therefore they would still theoretically run them.

Giving dps the same opportunity to gain said mounts doesn’t negate the fact that tanks/healers have the chance as well.

Why wouldn’t they just make the mounts be available on the loot table for everyone when running heroic+ w/ personal loot enabled for the mounts specifically

These mounts aren’t “exclusive” as they are already obtainable in game.

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Encouraging more DPS to run them kinda ruins the purpose of the bribe existing.

edit: Also, it is not H+ rewards, it is dungeon rewards.

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They are trying to get people to play tanks and healers more. If everyone got the bag then what’s the purpose of the bag?

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Because there is still an incentive for tanks/healers to run them. Just because someone else is also getting the incentive doesn’t negate the fact that the incentive still exists.

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Yeah exactly.

DPS: It is too hard to get a tank/healer.
Blizzard adds incentive for tanks and healers
DPS: Hey! I want an incentive too!

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The purpose is to make it easier for DPS to find a tank or healer.

a) If I can just DPS and get the same thing, why would I heal?
b) Adding more DPS into the pool makes it even harder to find a tank or heal.

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Valid point here. Though it’s safe to assume their goal isn’t to discourage dps from doing heroic +. Eventually all super geared dps will no longer need heroic+ loot and those tanks/healers farming for mounts will have to deal with an army of dps-Alts that don’t understand how to deal damage and follow mechanics.

It’s not heroic+,. it’s a dungeon reward period.

Not sure if that changes your point, but yeah. It’s not linked to H+.

edit: I mean you may be able to get bags from there too. But it will also be normal/heroic as well.

Because your main role is healing, unless you’re only healing for the mount, in which case you probably aren’t the best healer and I’m sure the group would prefer you not. I don’t know very many main healers that choose to dps dungeons unless the group already has another healer.

I don’t think it adds more dps. Why would the amount of dps doesn’t change? If a person with the ability/gear to tank/heal chooses to dps because it’s easier then they’re going to have to wait for a tank/healer. It would be easier for them to just tank/heal and not waste time. I think time>easiness of role in this case.

Slightly changed my perspective, but still. I don’t think the incentive needs to be exclusive to tanks/heals. The incentive would still be there. I also don’t think the incentives goal is to make new tanks/heals I think it’s to have existing tanks/heals continue running old content. That’s like the main argument when it comes to this… how will the keep tanks/heals interested in running content they out gear?

I mean that is what the bribe is for, to keep us running content we outgear.

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The bribe would still be there, even if it’s for everyone. Why would a dps that severely outgears dungeons, run said dungeons? Blizzard wants to keep dungeons relevant for all players not just tanks/heals. That’s my point. Geared dps need the incentive as well. It doesn’t diminish the tank/healer incentive.

They don’t want overgeared DPS running it. They want LESS dps so that the people who actually need the dungeon can find a tank and healer.

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No. No. No.

I would however support making them BoA.

Main a DPS for raid, but have a tank/heal alt? Get your main those bags by alting it up! I have 2 DPS, 3 tanks, and 3 heals. If I could send bags to my DPS I’d consider running dungeons for people besides guildies.

Returning to the actual topic: If everyone gets a bonus it removes the reason to be running it as tank/heal. Why run your tank when your dps will get the same bag. When everyone is special, nobody is. If it went to everyone it’s just bonus loot for the party and no reason for the tank/heals to care.

See I don’t think that’s necessarily true. They want all players continuously running old content.

No they don’t. This is not a new concept, we have had bribe bags for tanks/healers in retail since Cataclysm. The only purpose is to alleviate queue times for DPS.

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Because you also want the mount? If you have Alts and want the mount, you will run all of your toons. If tank spec is easier to find a group then you will be tank spec.

Not the same thing. Again, just because everyone gets the opportunity doesn’t diminish your opportunity to obtain. You still have that. You’re still enticed.

Individual chance, not a /roll

I see plenty of tanks right now queuing up for direbrew because they want the mount. I doubt more would sign up if it were only exclusive to tanks.

Oh cool so I get it as dps too? ill just sign up as dps instead of heals/tank then!

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Okay, then wait for a group? Or you can instantly make a group as a tank/healer.

The first incarnation of bribe bags:

" Satchel of Exotic Mysteries is a reward from completing a random dungeon under a role that has a Call to Arms active at level 85."

Call to Arms is the role(s) that there is not enough of, ie tanks and healers.

You are missing the entire purpose. Not to mention this method is proven to work cause it helped tons with RDF when it was implemented. Before they added that you would be in queue for 2+ hours as DPS

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