Here we go again

While somewhat true, you can tell by reading the tooltips they posted how useful these abilities will be in certain situations. Min-maxing isn’t just about numerical values.

I like to change my loadouts all the time on my characters based on what I’m doing or how I want to play at the time. I don’t really see that changing going into SL. Still going to change my talents all the time. Just won’t be able to change Covenants easily.

I’m already planning on dedicating my alts, even ones of the same class as my main, to trying out different Covenants simply because I’m that kind of player that wants to try everything and have all of my options at my disposal.

I will use my friends list as an example. I would say 90%, and that is on the low side, of the people on my friends list play classic over retail. The only reason, and I mean THE only reason some came back was because of the XP buff. They are hitting 120 and either leveling something else up or quitting again.

I know my friends list isn’t the best example but I talk to these people, I know why they quit playing a game they have invested well over a decade into like it was nothing. This game is dying quickly and it is not because people do not have interest. They are not interested in what it has become.

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Friends list caps at 100, right? Do you even have that full? 100 is a drop in the bucket for a game with millions.

I guess if we dont want to address the actual conversation, ok

They’ve already failed that when they gave Necrolords for DKs an extra survival cooldown AND gap closer/interrupt making it already the best choice for PvP regardless of what other buffs it gives.

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In the NA region we are below a million. May be the asians have that many in their region.

That’s basically what Teramas were agreeing about…It’s as if he can’t imagine his ideas are the best, so why bother taking 15 years of data and player feedback into consideration.

What is there to discuss? You hit the nail on the head:

How do you know?

I mean, if you dont want to hear from real people and why there is such a skew of my friends list preferring one version of the game over the other, Yeah, I guess there is nothing to discuss. Sounds like you have it figured out.

I don’t hate him. I just wish he wasn’t awful.

I don’t have it figured out and neither do you. That’s my point.

It = WoW’s population. I hate rental power, not disagreeing with anyone there.

Sounds good.

Nobody asked for another talent/trait system.

As subscribers who pay a monthly fee for the game, I would think we have a say in how we feel about the game? Blizzard continuously states they like to hear player feedback on forums and that is what it is- feedback. The fact is- if Blizzard does do a “180 change” months down the road because of feedback then it probably means it was something expressed by the majority of the player base, which would make it a good change.

Your advice of ‘just playing the game’ and letting it go is not good advice, and it can be applied to anything in life, especially services that you pay for. I don’t know about you but If something is important to me, whether it is something I am paying for or not- I will not just passively accept changes I do not agree with and at least have my voice be heard especially if the company/person wants the feedback.

Hey, that is a great way to not address the issues and completely try to write off anything said as constructive. Good discussion skills. Cheers.

It is not because “you” think there is an issue that there is an issue.
it is fairly obvious that one option is to ignore people that bear no relevance to the bigger picture.
Most people are happy and hyped to SL. Why should they change it because half dozen people are upset over something ?

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Have you seen the front page of GD?

People give solutions all the time, even reasonable ones. It’s just buried in the echo chamber of people complaining. Or the thread never gets any hit’s.

And who said that forums are the only thing blizzard has to communicate with people ?
Most people not even post here.
From the active comunity, only 23% of them post in forums at least once, why anything here should be considered majority ?

Guess you got it all figured out then. Very nice.

I’m no fan of Asmon but this is 100% spot on.