eh? sleep as much as you want.
i didn’t see any attempt at discussion.
metrohaha blizzard shill typical of a mvp Lol
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Funny thing is people are going to say the covenants are player agency and give people a choice.
Reality is most people are going to go to sites like Icy-Veins and like talents they are going to pick the optimal Covenant talent for their spec even though another talent be it from the same covenant or another one looks like it might be more fun .
The solution is very simple: dump gimmick pseudo leveling alternative advancement grinds and used what worked at the game’s peak. Rented Alternative Advancement is terrible. Make those all reps and be done with it. We don’t need new abilities gated behind arbitrary grinds. That’s lazy design.
These covenants reek of stretching the budget of Artifact weapon RAA design across three expacs and lack of creativity by the design team.
I posted 26 times in this thread…
I hope everyone who’s on this thread agonizes over class choice as much. Covenants are sub classes. The myriad of interactions will be so widespread, picking a “best” will be impossible. Just like classes. “Is Bastion good?” Will be the same level of dumb question as “is warlock good?”
It depends. Do you like playing warlock? Then that probably matters more than anything else. What if warlock gets nerfed? Are you gonna reroll mage when that happens?
Same with the covenants. There will be guides about which soul binds/etc to use for whichever content based on your current covenant. Go over to icy veins right now, every single spec has a guide. Yeah, sub rogues aren’t doing that great this expansion, but combat rogues are aces. Probably gonna be like that.
Asmongold is an entertainer. His opinion is basically the first page of GD given a scruffy face. He’s not an analyst, and he’s not involved in development. So, let’s put his commentary to the side for a moment and form our own opinions.
Blizzards stated goal in the interview post reveal at Blizzcon was to make the covenants so expansive that picking a theoretical best for a type of content would be impossible. They said it was to be more like a class selection than a talent row. Whats happening here is: people can’t imagine what they can’t see. It’s a real problem in IT, designers spend a lot of time and money on mockups and wireframes even for simple sites because people can’t share an imaginative picture.
To get to where this opinion is, you’d have to expect blizzard to fail spectacularly at their stated goal, and that’s never happened. No, it hasn’t. They’ve made decisions that players didn’t like, but they’ve never set out to do something and then failed to deliver on what their vision was.
So there’s that.
“Looks at theoretical sub numbers and the fact that classic is keeping retail alive”
Yeah, I guess we players were wrong all along.
Yeah, they seem stronger. Hunters killing stuff and firing off abilities without line of sight. Think of what that’s going to do in PvP.
From that ability alone, any PvP Hunter that doesn’t pick that Covenant is insane.
Yes, technically any class/spec can join any covenant they want, they made it that far. But they also said they want to enhance player agency; driving specs into a certain covenant by making the others irrelevant for what part of the game they play, raiding, PvP, etc., does not do that.
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What? The sub loss over flying and other wod systems, like a terrain designed to be a maze, was record breaking.
They will never recover from the flying fiasco and ion’s bungling of it, but hey it got him promoted. Yes the game that once 12 millions played is gone, and so are the people who created it.
It’s even listed as a risk factor in their stock report, ‘the ability to recruit and retain talented employees.’
Well I’ll say it, they no longer have the talent because blizzard quit paying for it. Blizzard squandered our sub fees and didn’t turn a fair portion of it back into the golden goose, they are the idiots who killed the golden goose thinking they could make mo’money.
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At this point, it blows my mind that they do not look at the peak and try to figure out what worked so well.
The only thing I can think is that when Ion and his lot were at Elitist Jerks, they hated that expansion and anything that went on in it because it feels like this group does everything it can to do the opposite.
I am not trying to put Ion and the devs down, I promise, I am just calling it like I see it.
I think they believe they can do better, so, similar to what you said, they try really hard to be as different as possible rather than look back at the game as a whole and just use what worked.
After three expansions…I think someone close to them should let them know whats up, and it aint happy customers.
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Who the f asked for borrowed power???
I know folks who have quit and no one, I repeat, NO ONE, is a fan.
Except probably you/Blizzard, same thing.
Another “feature” you call sell to us, yet we can see right through it, faults and all.
It’s bologna, and if “it’s too late to be changed”, then I’m sorry. WoD needed changes, but the same old song and dance of “it’s too late.”
This expansion is dead on arrival. 
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I don’t believe that and nobody has proof to back it up.
Well they’ve been trying to make a game that their player base doesn’t want. Maybe if they had a clue of what made this game amazing we wouldn’t have to make “changes” to their implementations. You have green text so I assume you gotta protect Activision at all costs eh? Iain mad at you.
You do not believe that classic is currently keeping WoW relevant? Where would sub numbers be without classic at this point? Have you logged into some of these servers?
What they think and what they are capable of accomplishing are 2 very different things. Where’s Lore now?! He defended this scaling system that is now the core game.
I wonder how it feels to create content that millions of folks quit playing over?
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No.
Again, nobody knows.
Yes.
no theyre using WoW as a petri dish to try and manipulate the game to change into what THEY want despite how many customers are unhappy with the changes and they totally disregard and outright ignore ANY feedback that doesn’t agree with or fit into their narrative
bottom line is Watchers “vision” is all that he cares about and its the only opinion that matters to him
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