Here is the LFG Addon in action! Much worse than you thought

[Niia-stormreaver (Niia)]

These things need by turned off by default. In fact, the functionality shouldnt even exist.

I agree with you that they will be abused and eventually force players to use said addon if not handled.

[Laxdaela-spinebreaker]

@Sunlight-chromaggus

@Laxdaela-spinebreaker

Pretty sure the version going into classic only applies to soulbound raid items and in Vanilla you could submit a ticket to have an item moved from one person to another.

If I remember what the devs said this is only supposed to apply to dungeon loot as raid loot is determined by the guild/raid. Since for the most part PvE raids are done by organized groups that know each other, just trading gear isn’t an option. They might have changed their stance on that in the last week or so but I haven’t seen anything that would indicate that. Either way, it’s a system that didn’t exist in Vanilla, whether it’s dungeon loot, raid loot, or both. Which proves my point that things not in Vanilla can be added. Hence why moving goal posts on what is acceptable is dangerous when trying to maintain the spirit of what Classic attempting to achieve.

Blue Post on Loot Trading in Classic From March

“Taking that into consideration, we’ve decided that the two-hour loot trading system in WoW Classic will only apply to soulbound gear that drops in raids. Soulbound loot that drops in five-person content will not be tradeable at any time.”

And once again I will argue the spirit of Vanilla WoW was never about standing in a city spamming a chat channel, especially when Blizz actively took steps to try and move people away from it. Also, if it’s not ok to add things, then it’s not ok to take things away, so I’ll have back those macros that could play the game for me.

[Plaguelust-malganis]

The community of Classic to this day still does not agree on which pieces of gear are the most effective.

That’s because people are generally bad at math and break out in hives if they see a spreadsheet. That’s not indicative of a mod’s efficacy or lack thereof, people can be very stupid. I fully expect dumb comments when I play my Classic druid about having a “low ilvl” piece of gear, but that has no bearing on whether or not I’m correctly geared.

Classic wasn’t like retail where you can quickly look at a guide and know exactly which pieces of gear are the best for you.

Yeah it was… you had the EJ Forums as a mainstay of information for a long while.

he community can’t agree on what’s best because there’s many viable options. Not because certain pieces of gear aren’t viable. (Though obviously some are in fact no viable)

Community consensus isn’t what makes a gear choice correct.

[anon87955013]

Like I described earlier, for now you can disable the talent sharing and in an future update it will be removed. You will then be able to just set your role after you got invited.

Hopefully in a future update your add on will be removed. And hopefully your ability to create more add ons. You cannot be trusted to make add ons. Point blank. You may not see your self as a villain. But I promise you, you are

[Abombanation-darkspear (Abombanation)]

Are we going to get a Blue post about this game breaking addon/exploit ruining experience about to happen at launch??? Or is Blizzard going to fail us last minute and let the game be ruined?

Yes this isn’t an addon boys this is an outright exploit!!! Remember an exploit is something that the Devs don’t intend. They said they don’t intend for this. So lets fix this exploit.

[Auspice-bladefist]

IF a group leader for 5 man dungeon required a resume to join his party I would politely say “no thanks” and go to the next group (or make my own).

[Niia-stormreaver (Niia)]

If you go AFK the addon will delist your group and stop posting in chat.

So the only interaction required is hitting spacebar to avoid going afk every 5 minutes? You recognize the issue here, right?

[Savax-feathermoon (Savax)]

Why did this ****hole think we needed this kind of add-on for Classic?

[Plaguelust-malganis]

These things need by turned off by default. In fact, the functionality shouldnt even exist.

Inspecting people shouldn’t exist? Such authenticity!

[Starman-zangarmarsh (Starman)]

I agree with you that they will be abused and eventually force players to use said addon if not handled.

You can still do it all manually.

[anon87955013]

If you go AFK the addon will delist your group and stop posting in chat.

So the only interaction required is hitting spacebar to avoid going afk every 5 minutes? You recognize the issue here, right?

Exactly it’s just group finder all over again

[Jubileet-the-forgotten-coast]

Yes this lfg addon needs to be banned and people using it need to be sent back to retail. If you choose convenience over socializing you end up with no community just like in retail. BAN

[Suu-argent-dawn]

Now, with that being said, and understanding how people behave in retail, and make no mistake there will be retail players who play Classic with their current mentality,could you not see this feature being abused. A scenario if you will where just by seeing a class they just decline you without a conversation at all? Similar to how trying to queue for mythic dungeons or anything in the retail group finder works? In your experience, when queuing for retail dungeons, mythics, raids, etc if you get rejected do you usually get a message as to why? Because I’m willing to bet more often than not you don’t. And that’s the power this addon gives people, the convenience to avoid social interaction because it’s easier to just decline someone than have a conversation.

You can just shift click and see the class even without the addon. It is the exact same information. What is the difference you see here?

[Niia-stormreaver (Niia)]

IF a group leader for 5 man dungeon required a resume to join his party I would politely say “no thanks” and go to the next group (or make my own).

Such is the life of dps in vanilla. If you think communicating with people= “providing a resume” and is too much to ask when it comes to forming a group, again - stick to retail.

[Fellína-thrall (Fellína)]

I filtered specs and classes anyway, especially if I didn’t want to compete for a particular drop. The UI doesn’t change that sort of narrowing of the pool.

The UI is far faster and more effcient than you espcially when it has a larger reach. Its Far easier for you to toggle some options in an addon then when you send out that information in a chat form and just ignore classes you dont want.

That was removed.

Was it? I dont keep up on changes i only going off what the OP has. Still the idea that it was in is a bigger issue of what could be overall. Better that its not in.

If you go AFK the addon will delist your group and stop posting in chat.

You can walk away for a time before you actually are determined AFK by the system as i am sure you are aware.

Like I described earlier, for now you can disable the talent sharing and in an future update it will be removed. You will then be able to just set your role after you got invited.

It could also be added back or another person could write something for it. What is reasonable to discuss is capabilities of things that maybe this addon writer will pull from it but another would add into it.

[Laxdaela-spinebreaker]

Are we going to get a Blue post about this game breaking ruining experience about to happen at launch??? Or is Blizzard going to fail us last minute and let the game be ruined?

If other people using the addon ruins the game for you, you need to grow up, or find a guild and just run stuff with them. Nothing is stopping you from standing in IF spamming a chat channel, even if people use this add on.

[Crustyudder-illidan (Crustyudder)]

It just that I actually experienced this version of the game before. Social interaction doesn’t flourish around making groups but actively playing with them. The add on is a convince but convince in and of itself is a good thing.

You are not going to notice a social difference between a person using this addon and one typing out “LFM”

I think there will be a difference in the lesser incentive to make friends for groups. The whole part of not having a dungeon finder tool is to be more incetivized to make friends or build a network of people that will do the content with you.

Have quests and world content that are hard enough will incentivize some, but dungeons are the pinnacle of the leveling experience and this somewhat trivializes making the friends and holding onto those friends for dungeon runs.

Just my 2 cents

[Starman-zangarmarsh (Starman)]

Was it?

You just posted below that you know this is true.

[Fellína-thrall (Fellína)]

Im going off what your telling me and responding based on the fact you could be right. i didnt have time to go and verfiy your claim one way or another.

[Plaguelust-malganis]

The UI is far faster and more effcient than you espcially when it has a larger reach. Its Far easier for you to toggle some options in an addon then when you send out that information in a chat form and just ignore classes you dont want.

As opposed to having Prat and color coding all messages based on class and simply messaging folks or ignoring some requests? If the problem is just efficiency then it really isn’t a problem.