Here is the LFG Addon in action! Much worse than you thought

[Niia-stormreaver (Niia)]

I still can’t see why people have a hard on for forcing one member to spam trade chat…

Classic clearly is not for you.

[Saucywhale-bleeding-hollow]

Because “LF1M” is the beginning of the conversation. Having an addon automate the process get’s rid of everything that follows the “LF1M.”

Just because you don’t see the entire convo in public chat, doesn’t mean an interaction isn’t happening via whisper. Do people honestly think that looking for groups manually was just
“LF1M Tank”
“I am tank”
“/invite Tank”
??

I remember having actual discussions. Like if someone wanted to tank but didn’t have the best gear, would that be okay? Them saying they had experience on another character, and then that leading to another discussion.

That small, meaningless “LF1M” interaction leads to more meaningful interactions down the line.

[anon87955013]

I mean standing in IF spamming the LFG, Trade, and General for 20 minutes that you are looking for a 2 more for strat ud run, need tank. I’m not saying people didn’t do it because yes for the most part that was how it was done if you weren’t running something with your guild, my point is standing there spamming a chat channel isn’t actually playing the game and thus not the spirit of the game.

Then you don’t want classic. You want retail.

[Charax-emerald-dream (Charax)]

I don’t have a different version for classic of the addon no. But like I already explained, the auto invite was intended for custom groups as there is no point in using it for a dungeon and will be change before the release to reflect that.

In a video that was posted today, it shows that you can configure the addon so that you don’t even post to any chat channels and that it can limit the group finding to other addon users.

This wasn’t discussed in your interview with Esfand. You said you wanted to include people that don’t use the addon but you built features that allows the user to avoid people that don’t use the addon.

Is this another bug or just another thing you willfully glossed over?

[Primalmatter-stormrage (Primalmatter)]

Custom groups in this addon have an auto invite system, which means no communication. If you want to PvP for instance instead of sending out a message and having people respond and then you manually invite them, this addon does it for you with auto invites. So now you have formed an entire group without having talked to any of them, even if it was for them to ask an invite. That right there has removed a social interaction.

I don’t think you know what social interaction is… it isn’t spamming chat channels for people and it isn’t like your just going to suddenly not say anything in that pvp match.

This example is either funny or sad depending on how much you believe forming a group is some grand social experience.

[anon87955013]

He does seem to double talk a lot in his responses. Kind of like a used car salesman. I read all this replies and picking and choosing while conveniently answering half of some questions seems a bit weird.

Just take out auto joining. Not really a big deal, right? If there’s already ways to do it for big group raids as Studmuffynn stated, why have it?

No need to be hostile to the dude(ette?) for talking like a snakeoil salesman goblin though.

Oh yeah no he definitely has the shady dealer persona.

[Primalmatter-stormrage (Primalmatter)]

Classic clearly is not for you.

Honestly it isn’t but this exact same system existed in classic with meeting stones and later refined in the burning crusade so somehow I don’t think im the mad one here.

[Starman-zangarmarsh (Starman)]

Understand this please: I am in no way in favor of this addon. I am totally against it. Nothing you say will change my position. You want it…I don’t. Now it’s up to Blizz.

I cannot be any more clear than that.

Understand this please: this was in vanilla, so if you want an Authentic Experience™, there’s no way you could want this gone.

I cannot be anymore clear than that.

[Primalmatter-stormrage (Primalmatter)]

Because “LF1M” is the beginning of the conversation. Having an addon automate the process get’s rid of everything that follows the “LF1M.”

Just because you don’t see the entire convo in public chat, doesn’t mean an interaction isn’t happening via whisper. Do people honestly think that looking for groups manually was just
“LF1M Tank”
“I am tank”
“/invite Tank”
??

I remember having actual discussions. Like if someone wanted to tank but didn’t have the best gear, would that be okay? Them saying they had experience on another character, and then that leading to another discussion.

That small, meaningless “LF1M” interaction leads to more meaningful interactions down the line.

What kind of conversation is that…?

I am apparently a super social butterfly in wow if that counts as a quality conversation.

[Laxdaela-spinebreaker]

I don’t think the spirit of classic is meant to be people standing around spamming chat channels

actually it is

Actually it’s not. WoW has always been about conquering content, from taking your first steps into HFC or DM, all the way to stepping into Naxx. Standing around spamming chat channels is not what the game is about, it might have been how things were accomplished, but that wasn’t the intent of the game. Don’t forget, the meeting stones have been in the game since 1.3, they placed you into a queue for their corresponding dungeon, and in 1.5 they gave this ability to inn keepers.

[Sunlight-chromaggus]

I don’t think you know what social interaction is… it isn’t spamming chat channels for people and it isn’t like your just going to suddenly not say anything in that pvp match.

This example is either funny or sad depending on how much you believe forming a group is some grand social experience.

And that’s where you’re wrong. Let me quote Raztos as he summed it up better:

Because “LF1M” is the beginning of the conversation. Having an addon automate the process get’s rid of everything that follows the “LF1M.”

Just because you don’t see the entire convo in public chat, doesn’t mean an interaction isn’t happening via whisper. Do people honestly think that looking for groups manually was just
“LF1M Tank”
“I am tank”
“/invite Tank”
??

I remember having actual discussions. Like if someone wanted to tank but didn’t have the best gear, would that be okay? Them saying they had experience on another character, and then that leading to another discussion.

That small, meaningless “LF1M” interaction leads to more meaningful interactions down the line.

So even though just a simple whisper and an invite MIGHT be the end of it, in Vanilla it often wasn’t. What Raztos describes above happened more often than not. If you have an auto invite system it removed those potential interactions from happening.

[Saucywhale-bleeding-hollow]

You wanted me to write out an entire conversation? lol?

[Inviscerate-thrall (Inviscerate)]

You all use raider io to make groups, but are against an addon that makes group…

the hypocrisy is real.

[Faramere-stormrage]

We all use raider io in RETAIL to make groups, also I dont. So…

[Primalmatter-stormrage (Primalmatter)]

It… god this hurts its like trying to explain color to a blind man…

All of that takes place with this addon ignoring that you are going to be coordinated cc and pulls in dungeons like strat if you are doing baron runs.

People are not going to just be queue up and be done.

[Sunlight-chromaggus]

Actually it’s not. WoW has always been about conquering content, from taking your first steps into HFC or DM, all the way to stepping into Naxx. Standing around spamming chat channels is not what the game is about, it might have been how things were accomplished, but that wasn’t the intent of the game. Don’t forget, the meeting stones have been in the game since 1.3, and they placed you into a queue for their corresponding dungeon.

And didn’t work most of the time, had to be revamped for 1.5, still had major bugs until 1.7 and eventually replaced by BC. As a result very few players used these to form groups.

[Primalmatter-stormrage (Primalmatter)]

You wanted me to write out an entire conversation? lol?

No I just pointed out that is the entire conversation this addon removes. At max 4 sentences consisting of a whole 15 words or less.

[anon87955013]

It LEADS to conversation. Use your brain and think about the motions involved in something not just the surface cause in its self.

[Niia-stormreaver (Niia)]

Honestly it isn’t but this exact same system existed in classic with meeting stones and later refined in the burning crusade so somehow I don’t think im the mad one here.

If classic isnt for you, then why are you trying to tell those who actually do want an authentic experience that they should just… abandon that? Thanks for admitting you’re just here to troll, i guess.

And no, this is NOTHING like meeting stones, LMAO.

[Suu-argent-dawn]

You can disable it, but if I want to join a UBRS group that is listed in custom (since that can be a 10 man group for that dungeon) can I as a potential applicant CHOOSE to display my role for the group leader? Or can the group leader put a message saying to display your role or no invite, circumventing your disabling of the talent sharing?

You can also just put the group listed as UBRS as this is a 10 man dungeon. If you have the sharing disabled you will be displayed as “Level 60 Hunter”. If the group leader wants to know your talents he would need to text you and ask for it. But like I said this is only a band aid for now until the actual role selection feature is in.