Seriously, enough of the victim hood complaints. If you want to have a 2h versus DW debate, then have a debate. Stop crying about how victimized you feel in every single post. You are the one who responds to every single one of these 2H frost posts every single day.
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Thank you Kyrios. I’ve already given up reasoning with her and just started ignoring her to “not feed the troll” and save myself the endless headaches. I think we should try that on the other 2h Frost and Frostmourne posts as well with how painful she’s been, and how badly she keeps refusing to see the point constantly.
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You should be saying that to the person who posted under you.
Im not even having a 2h vs DW debate since I have said many times im not against 2h. What do you guys not understand about that? Its actually mind boggling where you get this stuff from.
Here it is again “I AM NOT AGAINST 2H!” I hope its clear by now.
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What are you arguing here for then? Just to tell people that you aren’t against 2H frost?
What’s your point?
This thread is so ridiculously derailed right now. Between the back-and-forths and the same guy still liking his own posts, and those he agrees with, with multiple toons, we need to get this back on track or it’s going to get locked.
His video was pretty good, though I’m not a big pvp’r and I don’t care for BoS at all.
As for the trolls - don’t stress, just ignore. In every 2H Frost thread the trolls show up on multiple accounts and alts talking in circles. They are a very vocal minority. I just wish Blizzard would give us our forum ignore button back 
Back on the actual topic of this forum, did anyone else find it interesting that Bliz used a picture of a Frost DK using a 2H weapon in the slides and the Bolvar is using a 2H weapon in the video. I don’t know if Bliz is trolling people or if they just don’t notice the irony.
I totally agree with you, and I have been trying to do just that too. But they won’t stop at all. They’re THAT persistent sadly enough, even after I told them I would start ignoring them to not feed the trolls anymore. Hope we can finally get this discussion back on track also.
I noticed. I’d like to give Blizzard the benefit of the doubt, but only time will tell.
I just wish they’d remove the weapon restrictions on certain abilities, and allow us to put 2 runes on our 2H weapon. If they did that, we could provide them some actual feedback.
Agreed, even if its not 100% as good as DW, I dont care. I play for the fantasy. As long as the class is close in DPS - I would be happy. After that, we can just try to re-structure the rest of the specs skills to function the same regardless of weapon choice. But that could wait until we get some metrics in from the initial change.
Me too guys. I don’t care if I’m 100% as good as DW also, I just want the fantasy of being able to use a 2 hander as Frost too. I think Death Knights need a major buff and a proper fix though, especially Frost, but that comes second to me after getting the class fantasy I wanted back that was taken away by the Blades of the Fallen Prince ever since Legion. But I would be really happy if there was a quest to properly reforge Frostmourne so Bolvar can use it against Sylvanas and the Jailer in the end-game raid. Starting with the destruction of the Twin Blades to use their remains and Frostmourne’s hilt to allow Frostmourne to truly be reborn again.
Yeah, the spec can be the best DPS in the game, but I cannot enjoy it again, as I once did, until I can get 2H Frost back. All the balancing of DW will never change that.
Thats what I have been asking you guys, if Im not anti-2h why call me that, and insult me, calling DW supporters bastards, just telling blatant lies, derailing the conversation.
Even Monkiy put in their opinion on the video, what happened then? An attack by a 2h supporter. Its been happening in each and every thread for crying out loud.
Please stop droning on and on about this, stay on topic.
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You guys keep bringing it up.
Please stay on topic.
Take your own advice.
I knew it, she’ll never stop talking about it, and never stop trying to derail the pro-2h topics. And try to create a situation where she can portray us as the ones in the wrong, and portray herself as always right, and never wrong. Let’s just keep ignoring her until she goes away, cause we can’t keep feeding her at all.
Anyway, back onto topic, one of the reasons why I favored 2h over DW was cause Obliterate actually felt like it’s namesake with a 2 hander instead of DW. With DW, Obliterate ironically became something that did exactly the opposite of that sadly enough, especially after Legion. And Frost became dependent on BoS to do good DPS now, ever since. I think if we got 2h Frost back, we would be truly OP if they don’t readjust the abilities for 2h.
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it would change literally nothing. obliterates damage is based on % attack power. if anything its weaker because it would only account for the mainhand damage.
A brutal attack with both weapons that deals a total of [(60% of Attack power) + (60% of Attack power)] Physical damage.
as is it would be a 60% attack power ability vs dual wields being a total 2 hits of 60%. it would be noticeably weaker
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They can still redo the ability to allow it to be used by 2h again though. But not only would the damage be a lot with DW’s buffs if they’re carried over to 2h Frost, I don’t think they would release 2h Frost like that at all without working on it some more, even in the Beta. Plus, that’s the current ability text and how it works, not the old version where 2h was still possible with Frost. And they can easily fix that to allow 2h again for your info. I’m not gonna say anything else, but I just wanna let you know all that at least.