They tend to respond to being quoted with deflection and saying something along the lines of “That’s not what I said”, even though it’s a direct quote.
I don’t get it tbh.
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Me neither Mauden and Kyrios. I think they’re so dead-set to “prove” that we’re the ones who’re “wrong” and that they’re “right” that they ignore not only our words, but even their own previous words. Regardless, that’s a very poor way to hold an argument against multiple people.
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Well, dont change what we said. The quote might be from us, but the response to the quote has nothing to do with what was said. Its really not that hard to do unless you dont understand what is being said.
That isnt my fault. Like I have pointed out, im not even anti-2h, though some of you are making a pretty good case to be anti-2h just to laugh at some of them complain for another 2 years. I could post about how to bring back 2h, which I have done multiple times, has anyone quoted that? Has anyone even tried to pick it apart in how it wouldnt work? Or have people suggested something like 2h to DW transmog, and say that it wouldnt work because of how the animations dont work at all since the system doesnt know what to do with the offhand, and people go nuts over it.
Even with direct quotes, most of which are just a small portion of the quote cutting out context. Again, stop trying to change what people say or mean because it suits your argument.
Have you gotten a threat of violence? No? Well I have, been insulted based on nothing? I have. Get called the same person as other people based on absolutely nothing? I have.
Its constantly these adamant 2h fanatics that are doing these things, they dont want to have a conversation at all and rather shut it down or try to discredit the other person.
Its probably why Blizzard doesnt pay attention to the forums, maybe thats why they shut down your 2h threads because they go off the wall insulting people and so on.
Maybe if you guys would pay attention then you could see the writing on the wall and its pretty clear writing.
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Proof of this?
No, you didn’t. You twisted a reference into one. Your lies don’t work on me, sorry.
Take your own advice.
From what I’ve seen, the threads that get locked are locked because of people taking the bait from trolls such as yourself, derailing the thread into a mess.
I truly wish there wasn’t a daily limit on flagging.
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Did I? What was that reference then? Its a reference to people in an anime saying Muda Muda Muda when they do what to someone? And they said they wanted to go “Muda Muda Muda on her”? Is that not what happened or are you siding with someone just because they are on “your side”.
I didnt change what was said. They even said they said it out of aggrivation because of how they felt.
Oh so then these people are trolls? Thanks it looks like we agree on something. And what exactly are you going to flag? Me? For what?
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Repeating myself is fun.
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If I am lying prove it.
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Dude is shocking in his own delusion those days, i think we broke him
did they? i saw like 4-5 2H threads not locked, there are more?
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No, there isnt. There has only been 1 that was locked because it was full name calling by the 2h community.
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I’ve only seen 1 that got locked, because of one of the Unholy guys trolling.
Seems like lately someone might be trying to replicate that.
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The only reason I made that post was not to make personal attacks at all, but trying to ask you to leave this thread be. I just wanted to be able to talk to my fellow 2h Frost fans in peace, but it looks like as long as I have to deal with guys like you, that’ll never be…
But at least remember, this post was NOT a personal attack on you at all! I was just so tired of hearing from you and getting an endless wave of headaches from trying to reason to you, only for nothing to work at all. It’s like I’m talking to a brick wall constantly, and said brick wall keeps trying to move itself in front of me…
Oh Jesus jumped up Christ… PLEASE leave me be! ALL OF YOU! I’m begging you all! I can’t take it anymore!
EDIT: Dammit, part of it got cut-off. At least the link to the full version works.
You are on a forum where anyone can post. If you want an echo chamber you need to do it privately.
And what do you mean “guys like you”. Care to explain and give evidence?
No one is forcing you to be on these forums, no one is forcing you to read our posts which its clear you guys just see a name and ignore most of it anyways so I dont know where the complaint is coming from.
If you are this fragile that you cant handle a slight disagreement then I think you should leave the forums or at least take a break.
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By other guys like me, I mean Mcwhiskey, Trumpknight, Dreadmoore, Mauden, and others who not only support 2h Frost, but also are far more reasonable than you can ever be.
But it looks like all I have been doing by responding to you, Monkiy, and Magicke, was “feeding the trolls” and unwittingly giving you ammo to make me look like the true bad guy.
So I’ll just do what I should have done all along, and ignore all of you, pretending you and your walls of text don’t exist.
If that doesn’t convince any of you guys to leave me be anyway, then you all truly have no life. But I’ll be glad ignoring you guys will at least save me the endless headaches you all have been constantly giving me. I need to get this discussion back on topic anyway.
But I’ll let you know this at least before I start ignoring you, I’ll be EXTREMELY happy if 2h Frost does indeed come back, and proves EVERYTHING you kept saying all wrong. See you in The Maw when Shadowlands comes out.
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Welcome to the club 
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That post is a personal attack. It had nothing to do with the thread topic, or my response, it only exists to tell me to be quiet because you don’t want to hear any criticism. You targeted me, instead of any of the points I made about the video being incredibly unreliable.
Public forum. Public replies. You need to learn to deal with criticism and opposing opinions. I’ll say this again: you can choose not to participate on the forums if you don’t like to hear opinions on the very topics you start.
The cognitive dissonance is real. Mcwhiskey devolved a conversation to the point of attacking my helm model as being ugly. Trumpknight started the whole “Monkiy and Kelliste are the same person, and really just an angry developer,” conspiracy. Dreadmoore has called numerous factual statements lies, such as Nerves of Cold Steel existing in the Frost tree since launch.
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Thanks Kárák. And for the likes too. They helped me feel a bit better after being endlessly stressed out so many times. Anyway, did you talk about Hazzed’s video before? If not, what did you think about it? Hope this helps with getting back on topic also.
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You dont even remember what you posted because you were talking to Monkiy and said “but as long as I have to deal with guys like you,” and I asked what you meant by that.
You made yourself look that way with your hate and your lack of self control. What you said, dont put the blame on us for YOUR actions.
You already pretend like our walls of text dont exist and we constantly have to basically repost what we said because YOU dont read them in the first place while trying to also make an argument against them. Its why you keep calling us “anti-2h” when we arent, and you cant provide ANY evidence what so ever that shows that we are anti-2h. You keep with these baseless claims and quite frankly im tired of it and im calling you all out on it and, whats this? You dont like it.
You keep talking about us and what we are with insults and so on, not to mention you are on a public forum. Its your own fault that you have been disingenuous the entire time. If you have been following what has been going on in the anime community state side, you should know what lies can do, except unlike the person being accused, im standing up for myself against lies. Well they are too with a lawsuit, but if you dont want these posts, quit lying.
Saying what is wrong exactly? You havent shown how we are wrong at all through any of the threads and we have been asking for it. If you say we are wrong SHOW IT. Dont just claim it and think its going to do anything.
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You say you want to be left alone, while at the same time tossing insults and toxicity around? That ain’t how you do it. Don’t let conversation devolve it leads nowhere, trust me I’ve had to deal with it before.
If you keep things civil and keep people names out of your posts you won’t find yourself so stressed.
There are going to be disagreements on this whole 2h coming back thing. Don’t let yourself fall into the category of people who only toss insults because they have nothing else to contribute. You’ve made good points before, don’t let them be overshadowed by all this other crap.
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Not to mention they used pre-BFA builds to try to say weapon damage is used to calculate ability damage when if you look at wowhead, which is up to date, that its calculated off of attack power.
Im just tired of the claims and insults with absolutely nothing to back it up. Or you ask them to explain something and it never comes up, or they look at your character and try to discredit what you say instead of what you are saying.
And on a public forum, im going to publicly defend myself.
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