A big number is a big number whether you add the 2 together in an addon, or it’s applied using a 2h. The damage is also exactly the same no matter the weapon.
So what’s the problem exactly?
I agree so why not allow 2H weapons if skills are based on atk power and not weapon dmg or speed?
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Yep. Saying they want to go “muda muda muda on her” and explaining that it’s what people say in an anime while they punch other people. So now what?
I have absolutely no problem with that as long as one phrase is never uttered. “DW does more damage than 2h, it isn’t fair” or anything along those lines. This was brought up long ago when people were initially saying I was anti-2h based on absolutely nothing.
She took my explanation for where did going full “Muda Muda Muda” on her came from as threatening physical violence. I was just trying to explain the series where the phrase came from and who said all that. And she took how I explained how The World and Gold Experience said that while punching someone as a threat. I shouldn’t have mentioned that at all for her to use against me like that.
Someone said “muda muda muda” to you and you took that as a threat of physical violence?
What thread was this in, I have to read this
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Haha, to each their own I guess.
I really don’t care, and again, it’s the reference in where it came from. Basically saying they want to replicate what happened in an anime to me.
Again, I really don’t care, but don’t you think that’s taking a weapon a little too far based on absolutely nothing that I have said?
Oh, no no no. You got aggravated, said “I want to go Muda muda muda on her” which what was the context of where that comes from? I think you said it was from an anime (yes I know JoJo is an anime) where 2 people say it while doing what? Punching people was it?
I mean, I can’t say your feelings related to how you feel about what anyone says about anything are wrong. How you feel is how you feel. But I would encourage you to take into account context. It’s important.
This is a video game forum where a guy referenced an obscure anime phrase and explained its meaning to you after you specifically asked him to. I do not see any threats made.
If I said “I am going to slam my head into my keyboard following this conversation,” would you take that as a threat I made against myself?
Yeah, they explained it, it was where 2 people say it while punching each other or other people. The key word being punching.
Again, if I said “I am going to slam my head into my keyboard following this conversation,” would you take that as a threat I made against myself?
I did say “slam.”
Self inflicted is the same thing as violence to another person?
It’s more like replacing “my” with “your”.
Not sure I follow. All violence is bad.
i don’t know what you are getting at. Of course it’s bad, but you can control what you do to yourself, I can’t control what someone else does to me because they get aggrivated.
I honestly think she was trying to take my words to mean I meant harm on her for real and paint me in a bad light. Regardless, with how many times she posted to everyone who wanted 2h Frost to come back, Frostmourne for real, and mogging DW over 2h, she kept pulling all sorts of ways to say it was all “impossible” so many times that I couldn’t take her seriously at all.
And I honestly wanna find someone else to talk to who can be far more reasonable and not constantly shooting what I say down constantly with walls of text. Yet she claims she’s not doing just that all the time, while it feels like she’s trying to do just that so many times.
Can we talk about how 2h Frost can come back, and how Hazzed had a point in this video also if possible Kyrios? I think that can help me feel better, and get this discussion back on topic at the same time.
Yeah, I feel like its going to come down to whether or not Bliz can design the class skills to scale purely based off attack power and maybe use differing DW/2H specific rune forges as DPS tuning forks.
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You do know I have talked about how to bring 2h back multiple times right and not just through transmog.
Hazed also stated something early on in the video that he would rather have a fun or good spec and it doesn’t matter the weapon set. Right now the weapon is irrelevant in terms of damage or playstyle. If they brought it back it would be like Wrath. At that point there were only 3 differences, even in Cata there wasn’t really a playstyle difference since there wasn’t a focus until MoP. All they had to do was a 2h runeforge combining FTC and razorice, that takes care of the increased frost damage DW had. Now you have to solve for the increased km procs which could be solved by nerfing DW to only proc off of the main hand. That won’t completely fix it since a 1h has more attacks on average but it will normalize it. Then fix how DW crits when doing obliterate or frost strike. Since DW has 4 outcomes, this is the only hard part, making both weapons use the same roll so the strike either crits or it doesn’t. Or if it isn’t a big deal leave it alone.
Adding in MotFW back isn’t the answer since it just muddies the water, and since weapon damage isn’t calculated and it’s based off of attack power there wouldn’t be any major dps difference.
If you want bigger crits then that is where the actual spec balance and design comes in at. They can shift and move where the damage comes from to whatever the player base would agree on. Shift it onto obliterate and frost strike if that’s the case. The spec is far more important when it comes to damage output and where that damage comes from. The weapon has absolutely nothing to do with it at this point and is only going to fix 2 things. Getting 1 weapon instead of 2 and the visuals.
They can, it’s just obliterate doesn’t scale with the rest of the kit. It’s the only thing that doesn’t scale, but the ability that everyone likes the most. Even in DW obliterate hit for about as much as 2 hand.
The talent to give obliterate frost damage every 8 seconds just doesn’t cut it. I also think, that since km works with obliterate, or Frostscythe, that it should allow the ability to bypass a portion of armor or all of it. Of course you would need to build crit, but it would make KM more meaningful to use when KM procs off of auto attack crits. It giving a crit when the proc is based off of doing crits in the first place is just dumb. It’s like hot streak providing pyro a crit and that’s it, no instant cast.
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Disagreeing isn’t trolling bud.
And the video used above is nonfact based opinion. There’s nothing substantial in it that should push devs into the direction of 2hd
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