Havoc DH continues to be trash

that’s to balance the fact that dh has an unparalleled ability to disengage from fights

the only way a dh should be in range/line of sight to take any damage is being pulled wayyyy out on a huge map or getting stunned(or the random garbage that has an analogous effect and cooldown to being stunned, don’t be pedantic). any other time you take damage, you’re making a trade to do your own damage or you’re letting yourself be cyberbullied

Tell that to mvq as he just got 1 shot after trinket and blur.

You can say what you want about being stunned and the dodge but the damage reduction does nothing.

do you have a clip to link or

no, it does 20%

plenty of bursts will do more than 120% of your hp. don’t expect blur to see you through those

Can you tell that to other classes that have better walls?

I’m not at home so I am unable to provide clips – I am sure someone here is watching as a clip was previously linked.

pin your hope on that then, until a clip is posted i don’t trust you to notice enough of the context that what you said matters and your claim is functionally a lie

they have worse defensive mobility, so yeah easily

Warlocks say hello, so do mages, rogues, warriors, shamans, druids.

Etc.

you think shamans and warriors have better defensive mobility than dh?

Warrior can spin to win and ignore roots/cc as well as break them with avatar.

Their mobility roots the target in place – defensive stance stacks with wall.

yeah you’re a robot dude

you think it’s funny or deep to just plug things into a language model and post what it tells you constitute comebacks

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Now you’ve lost.

Good day.

the counter on people who know you are worthless even to bother talking to ticks from 1 to 0

call that winning if it makes you feel better

I said good day, sir.

oh wow insane example

the literal best DH player in the world playing his main comp

into Cdews team experimenting

with a full Eye beam nobody is kicking and them ignoring the DH to do whatever he wants

and everybody being within 5 yards of eachother

this is the equivallent to arguing that Hpal is squishy by clipping Absterge dying with bubble available

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At the literal tippy top of the ladder. This shouldn’t be possible since dh is bad.

Very next game they fight feral destro hpal all playing 25 yards apart and he’s top dam again(by a large margin)

He’s forcing hpal bubble all by himself with a. Fel eruption eye beam hunt blade dance while hpal is walled behind a pillar.

This shouldn’t be possible since dh does no damage?

This is the Benefit of playing with a wizard that the other team will lose to if they don’t spam kick

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i love ur logic how 1 person being really good at the game makes his class good

ofc hes top dmg if hes free and ppl arent spamming him with micro cc piss or focusing him down

thats over half the reason ppl even lose to his comp

but u aint gonna link games with petkick from 1-2 months ago where they went mvq most games and he just flopped lol

dh needs better defensives and better single target dmg

u can gut the aoe dmg for ST

because nobody cares about the aoe dmg anyway

1 more time:

why play DH when you can play another melee and achieve results much more easily?

I guess dh damage isn’t that bad after all.

Thanks for confirming!

Why?

Melee cleaves suck.

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Where was this logic when rank 1s were making specs work just before their entire class reworks?

World first guilds made them work in raids too.

Dhs legit deserve nothing. If you want defensives sure. But you will lose ALL of your offense in return. 24/7 meta? Gone. Jet plane ability? Gone

Your class deserves nothing but rated world quests

The bias is strong with this one.

I bet he has tears all over those buff warrior threads but ignores the fact that some rank 1s are making it work

I guess things ain’t that bad.

yes a spec that deals a bunch of pointless aoe dmg into a team that is stacked and doesnt stop any of its dmg will be top dmg

have u never seen a feral druid sit 100k+ dps permanently or just spam disgusting cyclones all over the place? ye coz nobody is on him

a windwalker can pull 150k dps if ppl stack but the difference is he will outright kill the entire team

not put throw glaive dots that tick for 8k on everybody

it was never about “DH doing no dmg”

DH does damage

its just pointless, healable, baby number aoe dmg on multiple targets and no single target dmg

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