That is fair, but you’re in for a scaaare 
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Best giggle I have had all day thanks <3
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Their deadline is Dec 31 2020, so that’s not it
What does Halo’s delay have to do with WoW. Activision has nothing to do with that game. If anything it means it’s annual Call of Duty reskin will sell more this holiday season.
I’m just shocked that the discussion from for those in Beta is not destroying SL based on the sour grapes in GD. Sure, suggestions & bugs are pointed out, but nothing like what is seen here. I’m guessing there are lots of testers that are not posting in the primary blizzard feedback area?
Honestly, given the pandemic resurgence and my predisposition to respiratory illness, I’m okay with a quick release. More time to play before I end up in an ICU.
Did heroic visions fail though? I ask in the most disinterested objective way i can possibly ask, since for me, it obviously failed. But i’m not too sure it failed completely. Let’s not forget that this was 3 months of content (realistically - a couple of months building up the cloak and then another month or so farming out the win) stretched out way beyond its natural lifespan.
What i guess im asking is that 'if it were much shorter and there was another patch (8.3.5) building on it, would it be considered a failure?
And i get that this might be at the core of your point (it lasted too long for what it was), but i mean to ask: Was it genuinely bad content by definition?
And again, dont get me wrong. I personally hate it. Even on the grounds of it being a short term content patch within a normal 11 week patch cycle (since… er legion?).
What i saw were multiple youtubers praising it’s scope in pre-patch. Looking forward to its success. And then players grinding out the requirements in live over that three month+ experience. Again, and i really want to stress it, its not remotely enjoyable for me (i’d make a terrible hollywood bomb disposal expert). But i guess it worked for other folks.
The problem with it, like soooooo much of BfA was its complete lack of ambition (and development cash - lets not be fooled, the purse strings are being tightened on their former cash cow). What might have made it amazingly successful was multiple grind zones for their very lazy fill up the bar quests.
But they did what they could with the finances available to them. And im not going to get annoyed, but i am super annoyed with the shackles they seem to have to develop this stuff. It’s patently obvious. They have all these amazing ideas, and this terrible finance system. And although Jim Sterling is possessing me right now. It really irritates me. Because i can see the scope. I can see the potential of every system they want to add. But I can see the cut backs in budget restricting their delivery of every vision through every turn. Its so…
Sorry, delving far away from the point. Point is… this game is no longer competing with… hang on… this game hasnt even been competing with hearthstone since its inception as a money making resource. Ive watched their financial reports for years. Against King… the cheapest, lowest overheads and license to print money… you just know the budget has been shattered since at least legion. So im role playing inside my head what new systems like heroic visions are supposed to be. And they’re pretty awesome. But in game, theyre kind of garbage. And as a fan, i feel i have to very begrudgingly reconcile this.
I dunno. It didnt fail. But it targeted a very core, invested group of subs almost exclusively. And that’s very likely whats behind the shadowlands shake up of the hardcore game.
Activision has no say with Blizzard games, and vice versa… Read the merger announcement to educate yourself on how it was set up.
Why worry they have time to get it right they have untill 9.3 to work out all the bugs I mean there’s always next expansion… I mean look at BFA it went really…oh wait…
Doom and gloom sells. And a hefty dose of confirmation bias.
Thank you for sharing what you think. It’s imperative that you get the warning out. People must know the truth as you think it may be.
What the hell does Microsoft have to do with Activision?
Chances are if SL goes bad, it won’t be another WoD, it will be another BfA. I don’t know which one is worse, to be fair.
Just watched a Youtube vid of a streamer run into a bug where they couldn’t level past 57 in SL. I know this isn’t indicative of the whole product, but it is a bit troubling given how incredibly buggy BfA was.
ATVI in late 2018 were at 80 bucks a share (and then completely collapsed based on guidance into 2019 - nothing new coming from ATVI (not blizz). Right now, theyre close to those highs. The agreement in 2008 (12 years ago when wow was a behemoth) was a 52/48 split in favor of vivendi. There is no way on earth those shares havent moved. ATVI controls the purse strings of blizz and have done for several years. MMOs have been a dying genre since at least 2009 with the launch and failure of both warhammer and swtor. Theyre incredibly expensive to produce, require constant and incredibly tedious systems to maintain, are incredibly inaccessible to new players (not grandfathered in) and are completely inflexible in their design scope. They couldnt compete with games like fortnite and their pay-models (and cultural impact). Its blindingly obvious theyd be scaled back in the mid 2010s.
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Legion is generally excluded as a rush product because they canceled the Faction Hubs, an entire continent, and raid tier from WoD to work on Legion.
WoD died so Legion could have time to be developed.
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People really seem to forget that one of WoD’s major content patches was twitter integration.
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Every xpac and even vanilla were filled with bugs. I am not sure why people are acting like BfA was any worse.
Tiktok integration when Blizzard?
Good or bad I just wanna play Shadowlands. I don’t expect Blizzard to make another great expansion. I just wanna do new things.