I enjoy the zones, music, dungeons, leveling was good. Raiding so far has been fun.
So, it isn’t bad, it’s just a systemlands mess.
Bellular is some internet guy who wants views on his videos to make money, so he’s going to frame it in an inflammatory way.
https:// www. superdataresearch. com/blog/worldwide-digital-games-market
From November to January, revenue fell by 61% and user numbers declined by 41% (these figures do not include China). This roughly matches the pattern seen for the past several expansions, though Shadowlands had a bigger launch. Blizzard does appear to have found a way to increase how often expansions are able to boost earnings. The publisher recently announced that it will be adding the 2007 Burning Crusade expansion into World of Warcraft: Classic this year. Alternating between releasing all-new and classic expansions could cause WoW revenue to spike annually for the near future, instead of every two years (the typical development time for the title’s expansions).
There’s nothing different in the pattern in SL so far, and in fact they made more money due to the big launch. WoW is the second highest grossing western game after league (3/5 of the top 5 games are asian games). MMOs ALWAYS experience drop-offs several months after any major patch because lots of people finish the content and then wait for the next patch rather than continually playing.
Sorry haters, WoW is just fine and your doomsaying and crying about not getting your mustache customization isn’t going to change that. Most players are happy with it, as they have been with past expansions, and Blizzard is raking in the dough. You can leave and have temper tantrums on GD, they do not care. lol
I saw more people in classic orgrimmar today than I’ve ever seen in oribos. A guild was getting the world buff but still had to be over 150 people there.
No it isn’t and your excuses are the reason for it. Complacency…
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They abandoned Warfronts, which were a fun semi-weekly activity for large groups to get a shot at some gear.
They added no new Epic Battlegrounds in a couple expansions now.
They think people like being grounded in zones with horrific uneven and maze-like terrain.
The Maw is designed to kick you OUT of the zone if you have too much fun.
Torgast is a complete waste of time.
Shadowlands is only positive to me is that Bastion, Ardenweald and Revendreth LOOK really cool. Artwork is this expansion’s only selling point.
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The only answer:
There is always a massive lull at the end of the first raid tier of every expansion.
Vanilla was probably the only one for which this was not true. I remember the huge drop-off in BC. I remember it happening in Wrath. I remember it happening in MoP. I remember it happening in BfA. We began each of those expansions with a huge group of energized people playing. We had 20+ players at the start of the raid tier. We barely had a guaranteed 10 by the end of that raid tier.
My guild is experiencing this, but I’m not freaking out because it happens every time. We still have people raid logging, and we still have enough daily participation to get our weekly M+ runs done. Somewhere mid-expansion, the leavers return. It’s been this way in my experience since literally the beginning.
It always disappoints me, but this lull is the point at which I level my Horde toons and get working on my alts. I play fewer hours & spend my time on other things. I’m not one of the players who stops my subscription or quits altogether. I play less and hang out waiting for the people to return at the start of a new raid tier.
It has ever been thus in my corner of Azeroth, so this is neither shocking nor upsetting to me.
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So… the very front of the expansion is good, but overall the expansion is bad - because the core of it is bad.
Not really sure how that means it’s not the expansion. WoD had fantastic leveling and was great at face value, but it wasn’t a good expansion.
The main trouble I’ve been having with SL is simply time. Between working full time, having something of a social life, and a partner to consider, it’s really hard to justify logging on to grind unenjoyable content to get to something that may be better.
There are just so many moving parts to work on at the same time, and they don’t add up to anything worthwhile. It’s a shame, but I’d not be playing if it weren’t for casual RP.
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Only thing I enjoyed about WoD was leveling, raiding, the zones and the insane easy gold from Garrisons.
Right… because it wasn’t a good expansion overall. The same is already true with Shadowlands. It’ll take a miracle to recover it, and everything we’ve seen of future plans shows it’s not going to happen.
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Blizzcon’s “what next” panel sounded like they’re content with the game as it stands, and instead of fixing anything or adding anything I’m personally looking for in 9.1, they’re just adding onto the existing content in a formulaic pattern.
Also, no coming tier (which I was excited to hear was returning, because I love those xmogs), no new customization options on the way, nothing about more heritage armor. They’re adding nothing that speaks to the cosmetic collector in me yet. 
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At the same time you have to look at the delayed launch.
I said it then that they could delay all they wanted to and it would still release broken and half finished.
Now look back at the bugs, crashes, janky issues here n there and all the hotfixes regardless of their delay for “polishing”.
This is ActiBlizz man. The days of it’s ready when it’s ready are gone. Now the dev game is to release broken games and slowly fix them later. Just look at the industry as a whole… it’s widespread at this point.
The days of unbroken well devoleped game content are past us I’m afraid 
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I can’t disagree with that. Blizzcon info stuff always gets me excited and this year it didn’t. It didn’t feel like anything at all to me. I’ve been more excited over prior ptr notes than what was givin’ from Blizzcon this year.
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It definitely hurt more than helped. I actually feel less inclined to play after blizzcon. It sucks because I love WoW and I want to play it but it’s very hard to be excited with the current set up. It feels more like chores than engaging fun. That might just be me though.
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huh…so WoW is #5 on that list and yet it feels like the game is losing ground creatively and being filled with more low rent busy work (WQs, anima grinds to purchase overpriced mogs, etc) .
If theyre making so much money on the game, seems like theyd put some of that profit back into the game.
ah…but I guess the investors and CEOs get all that extra cash.
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I think the massive anima drought (hue hue hue) and high cost of stuff is another reason I’m not very incentivized to go after transmog or other things. I just don’t have enough for it and can’t make enough of it without boring myself to tears.
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Same. I was kinda interested until I saw the amount each WQ pays and then creative pricing per mog piece. Mog collecting is literally THE thing I do in this game and they ONLY reason I havent quit permanently at this point…but somehow they managed to ruin the desire to do even that this expansion. lol
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All the anima required for items/xmog and what we are able to get from sources like raiding, WQ etc are no doubt 100% designed to make you spend as much time possible so in their minds it inflates time played and how much sub money they get from you.
Seems like they can’t understand that plan will only work for so long. People get bored/burnt out and quit.
But hey, at least they have their inflated time played so they can gloat about how much of a success the expac is.
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as a long time player I can honestly say the game has tanked and tanked bad.
Smaller zones, If no one has noticed this, have you been sleeping?
More vertical zones just to make it longer to get from point a to b
No free paths of progression your locked into the dry story line and covenants
Fun detected fun removed.
AoE Cap
The most horrible scaling issues if they didn’t learn the first time they really screwed up the second time.
empty zones this I can attest too I am back to where I have a 5 hours window where no one is on and the only players I do see are XR.
I could go on but I think most of us who are wide awake and aware can see the glaring issues the fact they are going to try and wait till July / August to do something means the game will keep sliding down. But hey the company sure love their secret secret forum where all the blizzard shrills are.
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