Guild Services Retiring

[Madelke-mannoroth]

@Yonbi-illidan

Well… not sure I’d go this far.

if crafting orders are cross-realm, i definitely want to be able to find a crafter easier through a cross-realm trade chat.

if crafting orders are not cross-realm, then i would be forced to transfer to a high pop realm anyways

[Ayukama-frostmourne]

Seriously? So, making anything up now to just get your own way? Like, seriously?

I’m just going to repeat for you.

SPEAK FOR YOURSELF, NOT FOR OTHERS!

[Madelke-mannoroth]

@Ayukama-frostmourne

SPEAK FOR YOURSELF, NOT FOR OTHERS!

thank you very much but i am allowed to speak for my friends when they ask me to.

have a lovely day

[Ayukama-frostmourne]

@Madelke-mannoroth

thank you very much but i am allowed to speak for my friends when they ask me to.

You said “we”. Not “Me and my friends”, you said, and here, let me requote it:

@Madelke-mannoroth

yes we do

You do not speak on behalf of everyone.

[Quenya-shadow-council (Quenya)]

Bliz: You know all that stuff we used to charge you for? Yeah, we are going to make it so you can access the guild anywhere and not have to pay for it.

Players: What! How dare you not make me pay for services!

Never change, GD

[Yonbi-illidan (Yonbi)]

@Fuzzbutt-zuljin

Unless they made it to where you can only post once every 5 minutes

Not sure that would help. Remember just about every person with an active sub could post once every 5 minutes.

There is already a soft cap on how many messages you can send how often.

@Madelke-mannoroth

if crafting orders are cross-realm, i definitely want to be able to find a crafter easier through a cross-realm trade chat.

if crafting orders are not cross-realm, then i would be forced to transfer to a high pop realm anyways

There are certainly arguments to be made for mega-realm or just removing the realm barrier entirely.

To start though, they should remove the penalty within a realm for playing the low pop faction by making the chat cross-faction.

There would be really large implications to go full-bore cross-realm everything! Shouldn’t let “perfect” get in the way of progress.

For example, their solution to currencies. Not a great solution in terms of usability. It is probably just a limitation due to tech. Still I am glad it is happening. It is a net benefit to the player base despite being janky.

[Skalpy-darkspear]

The Gregorian calendar ends every December 31 we just print a new one.

Mayans just printed a big one so they wouldn’t need to do it again soon, and they never did.

[Madelke-mannoroth]

@Quenya-shadow-council

Yeah, we are going to make it so you can access the guild anywhere and not have to pay for it.

@Madelke-mannoroth

what if a guild wants to transfer to a new realm?

yes i know it is cross-realm now but like servers still have communities and it matters what realm you are on…

guild leaders can have genuine reasons to want to transfer their guild to a new server - and no, just disbanding and creating a new guild is not a good option because some guilds have been around for 20 years, they don’t want to disband and start new, even if the name of the guild would be the same

for example - what if crafting orders ARE NOT cross-realm, then the guild would have a really good reason to want to move to a high pop realm so their members can easily get stuff crafted for raids (you might respond by saying - oh the guild can make everything for everyone: not true, not every guild has someone who maxxes out every profession, it’s nice to just talk to a crafter and get it done without having to make someone in the guild farm out profession knowledge)

[Radaster-arathor]

Kinda. Guild finder doesn’t work for the opposite faction of the guild, achievements don’t work if your group is made of the other faction from the guild, etc.

[Evilira-barthilas]

@Breadisfunny-turalyon

so now if i and others who have one account guilds dont transfer before july 22nd im stuck on a dead realm forever? thanks blizzard. unless your going to completely merge auction houses this is a awful change.

You have a storage guild with 8 of your characters, just create a new one. lol

[Ayukama-frostmourne]

@Evilira-barthilas

just create a new one.

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

I don’t get the outrage.

If guilds are cross server… can’t you just invite your alt that’s on whatever server, make them the guild leader, then BAM! Guild server and/or faction transferred?

And if you’re on a dead server with “no transmogs” on the AH, can’t you just use the gold from your guild to buy mogs from a different server, like Illidan?

[Evilira-barthilas]

@Tovi-moon-guard

I don’t get the outrage.

Because it’s the wow forum, posters have a need to be outraged about anything Blizzard does even if the outrage doesn’t make any sense.

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

That’s fair and it is Bread.

[Ayukama-frostmourne]

I mean, to be fair, it is GD after all. The only thing that does make sense is the name of the forum. Everything else is here all over the place.

[Sendryn-sentinels]

@Zumakind-faerlina

It’s not that hard to make a new guild on a new realm anyway

And lose the guild creation date, all of the achievements, etc? Yeah… no.

So unless we can give guild lead to cross faction or cross server… this is not a good change.

Now, if someone comes in here and says, “Yes, we’re implementing the ability to give guild lead to opposite faction or different server,” then that’s fine. But until then… I’m going to question this change that was created without any reason given.

[Liolang-daggerspine]

@Breadisfunny-turalyon

so now if i and others who have one account guilds dont transfer before july 22nd im stuck on a dead realm forever?

sounds more like the features will become obsolete than limiting us.
if its cross faction and cross realm probably wont matter where the guild actually resides.

[Sendryn-sentinels]

@Tovi-moon-guard

If guilds are cross server… can’t you just invite your alt that’s on whatever server, make them the guild leader

Considering you cannot give guild lead to the opposite faction right now, there’s a possibility that this is a “no.”

Problem is… we don’t have that info yet. So like I said:

@Sendryn-sentinels

Now, if someone comes in here and says, “Yes, we’re implementing the ability to give guild lead to opposite faction or different server,” then that’s fine. But until then… I’m going to question this change that was created without any reason given.

[Lorelaî-stormrage]

@Sendryn-sentinels

Problem is… we don’t have that info yet. So like I said:

Sounds like we should go test it on the beta or ptr, y’know, for Science!

[Sendryn-sentinels]

I don’t know how you’d test that on beta or PTR. PTR is one realm, afaik and beta realms are locked to different types of character creation, etc.