Guild Services Retiring

[Awarlocke-bronzebeard]

I would have cared, but I lack empathy.its really not a big deal

[Honeybowl-moknathal]

Good riddance

[Lenitas-blood-furnace]

@Shiftydruid-area-52

If its going to happen it will more than likely will happen on the EU forums. May already have. Id patrol that. They tend to give more direct answers there. Not sure why. Been that way the past year or two

I’ve never seen an answer on the EU forums xD One big complaint we have over there is that Blizzard seems to pay way more attention to these forums.

[Pandyan-agamaggan]

@Selura-area-52

Only thing I take from that is, restrictions are removed to do cross faction stuff and joining guilds not on your players server. The guild still belongs to the original server it was created on. Granted the new guild leader might be on a different server or even a different faction. The guild was registered to a server, its information is stored somewhere on a server, maybe not the original server it was created on or the server of the current guild leader but its stored someplace.

Some people just want a blue post (which most don’t reply so not to get pigeonholed) to confirm and no other players saying one thing or another and then the opposite happens, and they have money involved. Had I known that a server was dead before investing time into it and now having cash to server swap, I would be quite miffed.

Yeah, it is true that guild should be stored somewhere internally in the game database. Guilds could be stored in a cross-realm table not belonging to any server, or they could be stored in the original realm database.

The things is that Blizzard doesn’t need to clarify how those things work internally (and probably they don’t want to reveal it). And they don’t need it, because it is irrelevant.

It doesn’t matter. With guilds cross-realm and cross-faction everyone would be able to join any guild, access the guild bank and use any other guild feature, no matter if the guild is assigned to the original realm internally, to the GM realm, or to no realm.

[Pandyan-agamaggan]

@Breadisfunny-turalyon

so now if i and others who have one account guilds dont transfer before july 22nd im stuck on a dead realm forever? thanks blizzard. unless your going to completely merge auction houses this is a awful change.

No, you won’t. With guilds being cross-realm you won’t need to move the guild out of the realm.

If you are in a dead realm and you want to move to a realm with more people, first you must consider to change your way of thinking because for all purposes realms are no longer relevant, dead or not. Everything except one thing is cross-realm so the realm you are doesn’t matter. Except for the AH.

Then if you want to move to another realm, you must first reconsider if expending your money for this is worth it. I said it is not because with warband banks you can move items between any realms so you don’t need to move to access any realm AH in the region.

Second, if you still want to move to another realm, then… Do it. You can transfer your character. It is true that your guild will be stuck in your original realm but who cares? Your guild will become cross-realm so you can move your character to another realm while still being part of your one account guild. Maybe you will need to make one of your ats GM of your guild before transferring your character, but that’s it.

You not only won’t be stuck in a dead realm. It will be cheaper to move out of your dead realms thanks to all the cross-realm features.

[Cursewords-tichondrius (Cursewords)]

Never mind I went and read the article.

[Pandyan-agamaggan]

@Taeke-benediction

What? Why is Blizz removing an actual useful microtransaction, while keeping the soft P2W services like boosts and wow tokens?

Because it is no longer a useful microtransaction. In TWW Guild will become cross-realm which means this will change from useful into worthless. Blizzard could keep this feature so people like you who don’t understand it is not needed anymore can waste their money paying for nothing but they have the decency to not do it.

[Evilira-barthilas]

@Shiftydruid-area-52

Stop being daft.

Some people have to be right no matter what.

[Shiftydruid-area-52]

@Pandyan-agamaggan

Second, if you still want to move to another realm, then… Do it. You can transfer your character. It is true that your guild will be stuck in your original realm but who cares?

Its simpler than that even. You just invite a character from another server and promote them to GM. Boom your guild is on another server. Change your form of thinking too

Will the Guild Technically still be on the old server? Yes. You are however now GM and managing it from a differant server

[Pandyan-agamaggan]

@Shiftydruid-area-52

Incorrect. You just invite a character from another server and promote them to GM. Boom your guild is on another server. Change your form of thinking too

Yeah, except I am not incorrect because I wasn’t talking about moving the guild because that doesn’t matter anymore. I was talking about moving the character if the character transfer microtransaction still doesn’t let you move a GM of a guild to another realm or faction and he wants to keep being the GM of his guild.

Anyway, you’re missing the point. My point is that it is irrelevant in which realm is the guild. The guild could be in the original realm, in the GM’s realm or in a database table not attached to any realm. There is absolutely no difference between those 3 options when any character from any realm can join the guild. Which means you should be the one who change your form of thinking.

[Finraziell-wyrmrest-accord]

@Pandyan-agamaggan

Everything except one thing is cross-realm so the realm you are doesn’t matter. Except for the AH.

That’s the problem, if AH aren’t cross realm and guilds are stuck on certain realms, then suddenly a guild that has members that span multiple servers can make local AH purchases to deposit in the guild bank and start AH farming and flipping items onto other realms. It would be a complete disaster.

Now if the AH was cross realm for everything too, it would be different. So pending further clarification on changes, who knows.

[Pandyan-agamaggan]

Are you aware that everyone will have a warband bank in TWW that works cross realm?

Are you aware that cross-realm trading restriction was removed this expansion? This means anyone could invite any player from any other realm and trade gold and items cross-realms and cross-faction.

That is why those clarifications you ask are irrelevant. Because cross-realm guilds won’t introduce cross-realm trading into the game. We already have cross-realm trading.

[Dorth-draenor]

does this include the wow token cause its in the same space as these and they didn’t give a definitive list

[Maizou-proudmoore (Maizou)]

You know, I understand retiring realm transfers because cross-realm guilds are being added.

But an Alliance-led guild cannot be passed to a Horde character and vice versa.

So the Guild Faction Change still has a use.

[Cayna-hyjal]

@Maizou-proudmoore

But an Alliance-led guild cannot be passed to a Horde character and vice versa.

I thought that was changing in the pre-patch.

[Evilira-barthilas]

Who cares? All real reasons to be part of a guild except for mythic raiding guilds and a guild tag have been thrown away. lol

[Cayna-hyjal]

@Evilira-barthilas

All real reasons to be part of a guild

Mount Up, Hasty Hearth & The Quick and the Dead.

[Lichdawg-dalaran]

Could you please tell us if we can now faction change without having to rejoin the guild and without losing guild rank and reputation?

[Mbarakwengo-emerald-dream]

So going to let Horde and Alliance queue together?

[Akundathegay-skull-rock]

it’s the 23rd