The #nochanges crew are a strong force on these pre-release forums. Will be interesting to see once the game goes live and more people start participating if there is any sort of change to the overall tone of the classic forums. Pretty much all those QOL changes that have occurred over the years came about because of many forum posts begging for them. Don’t really see how guild banks and other QOL things ruin that Vanilla experience except blah blah blah slippery slope blah blah.
Then you fail to understand the very basic point of Classic and the development goals of the entire project. Sounds like a personal problem.
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No, he has the right of it friend Erebos. Layering, loot changes, and armored mounts are but a smattering of how blizz definitely considers our opinions for QoL changes.
edit: and, to wit, now guild banks
Whatever helps you sleep at night. Still not happening though.
I love how confident the #nochanges people are. if Blizzard realizes they can add guild banks to the store for 9.99 and there is a market for it I bet we end up getting them. Heck wouldn’t surprise me if those unarmored mounts end up in the store too.
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Since they’ve stated that Classic will not have a store, this isn’t going to happen, don’t worry.
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I plan on paying for both!
The classic project is to give the players the vanilla experience, not an exact duplicate. We have already seen changes made for purposes of security, server stability, Customer service work load, exc.
Guild banks effect all of the catagories of reasons that blizzard has chosen to make changes for. While having no effect on any core gameplay aspects.
While I don’t want classic to have a store I can say it’s entirely possible they will try to add it a few years I to classics life.
Yet, they were never present during vanilla.
They were removed from the infrastructure for Classic.
They were not present, in any form, in the BETA, despite being less than 60 days from launch.
That does not sound to me like Blizzard is planning to add the non vanilla QOL convenience of guild banks to Classic.
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Same arguments have been made again and again about tokens, transmogs, LFG, all of which have been categorically refused, as with the store. All, including guild banks, have been debunked with numerous reasons of how they change the game and said reasons are always ignored. Most of those threads ended up locked by the way. I can see this one going the same way because the few of you in favour of this keep ignoring the majority, the streams, the posts, the interviews, the majority of the community and keep spamming for your expansion specific, non-Classic features in a project dedicated to going to back to its roots (useful info, WotLK isn’t the roots).
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The only reason against guild banks that were given was inventory management, which was already proven invalid with how inventory management was already trivialized with bank alts.
Layering was added for server stability.
Loot trading was added for customer service workload reduction.
Client side was changed for security reasons.
Changes have been made, and some of them effect gameplay far more than guild banks because guild banks effect in town inventory management, which was already trivialized with bank alts
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Managing your inventory, your hoard and your personal loot and gear is part of the Classic experience. Prioritising what to keep and what to vendor or destroy is part of the Classic experience. If Blizzard wanted you to hoard everything, to have immense storage, then it wouldn’t have taken to Wrath to add it. If they wanted you to have an easy time of deciding what to keep and what to lose, they’d give you all bags at the start, and bank bags, and bags bigger than 16 or 18 slots. They didn’t.
They did however state that QoL changes were NOT a consideration for Classic. Authenticity is foremost.
Therefore by your own admission there is no issue. The point is trivial, because you can do this. I suggest you get used to creating bank alts and thinking up creative names for them.
Changes that have been made have been done so because of financial considerations NOT as QoL. Layering to reduce server numbers, dead servers and associated costs, loot trading to reduce the need for CMs etc.
Not having guild banks doesn’t cost Blizzard extra, it doesn’t present a problem AND it’s authentic to Classic. Therefore no fix or financial remedy is required. Even the client change, whilst for security, will save them money as opposed to the cost of security breaches.
The issue of guild bank alts vs bank alts is a guild bank alt encourages account sharing (security issue) logging in and out to get to the guild bank alt at peek raid times (server strain on high activity times), and customer service load from corrupt guild bank alt tickets vs being able to self govern with the tools guild banks provide for transparency through reliable logs and other tools
Guild banks are made for… Get this… Guilds. Woah. Mind blown. They’re not so that you and a mate can hoard ten, twenty or thirty times as many things per person as you see fit. They weren’t introduced until WotLK… Mind blown again. That’s an entire two expansions AFTER Classic, which this project aims to recreate.
Besides, don’t you aspire to have a bank alt, decked out fully in formal attire, with a cane and monocle etc., complimented by a witty name and guild name? Isn’t that part of the prestige? To stand in the capital fully pimped out at level 1 and having people look at you with disgust because you were wealthy.
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Not once have I argued for then for individual use, and they were introduced in BC not WotLK
My bad, sorry. Thank you for confirming that indeed they were not Classic.
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Why are we still arguing this when we are getting them? It’s like when I read a layering thread…we are getting layered too.
Sorry to disappoint:
Also, despite your best trolling, this thread has gathered a mere 2,560 posts in OVER SIX MONTHS, many in opposition, making it probably the worst performing change request thread to date. It can’t even be described as a slow burner. Even transmog and LFG troll threads had more biters and they’re not happening, the threads themselves locked or deleted LOL.
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Layering does NOT change the philosophy of the game…
Loot Trading does NOT change the philosophy of the game… (it makes tickets less)
Armored Mounts… seriously…
Troll is obviously trolling…
Guild Banks will NOT be in the game…
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