Hit the nail on the head sir. I’ve played since a week after BC launch and have said this same thing for YEARS. What made WoW originally magical was the social aspect and how the world felt. Modern WoW has not even a glimer of how the world felt, and just a slight sliver of the social aspect left.
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What is wrong with LFG, LRF, and so on?
Answer: Absolutely nothing.
The real problem is people. If people do not want to talk, then they will not talk. Then there are people that talk. I talk when some speaks up or people do not know what to do. I was in a raid once and the people asked, “does anyone know this fight?” I spoke up and said how to do it. It was the latest raid, the last boss. We wiped once, then I further explained because they did not go right ahead and start the fight after the wipe. We beat the raid.
If you are complaining about people not talking, then that is a people problem. It is not the tool, but the user that uses the tool. Besides I have not had a problem with negativity in LFG or LFR, only in rare cases.
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In fact Magic, i am going to quote myself from something I just said elsewhere on these forums:
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You are 100% correct.
This is exactly what happens when you pander to the low skill, low effort, snowflake gamer who wants everything without earning anything.
The original game relied on people trying hard, forming friends, communities, and uniting for a common cause. This strengthened bonds, provided rewards for effort, and flipped those work/reward gratification switches in all worthwhile people’s brains.
Enjoy murdering the game with that change.
SMH it’s 2019 and people are arguing against technological development.
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I agree with everything that you’ve said minus the “It has to go” part. Mainly because I believe we’re too far deep in the rabbit hole. We can’t tell whether we’re going up or down because we’re completely submerged in darkness. But for the most part outside of Mythic raiding, guilds and server community does not matter.
It’s pretty much a single player experience in an MMO which is completely backwards.
So single-player you have to deal and chat with people to get into groups, and so single player that you have to work with said people to do the content.
For only Mythic + and Mythic Raiding.
I see you’ve never actually done Heroic raids and M+ if you think communication isn’t required.
Or perhaps the guild/players you’re with are so skilled they don’t need to waste energy communicating on stuff they already know how to deal with.
The armory is a crazy thing…
I wouldn’t call clearing 10s to be skilled. Also Heroic raids aren’t hard and can be pugged to clear so a guild is not required.
Then perhaps there should be different difficulty levels so all walks of players can enjoy the game? Sorry your special club isn’t so ‘special’ anymore. You’re the type of guy that gets pissed at Little League Tournaments.
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I’d settle for CRZ being destroyed. If Blizz really wanted to woo me, they’d also get rid of the idiot who thought it was a good idea.
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Why would I get upset at Little League? Because they’re kids? That makes no sense dude. Right now BFA does not do anything support communities. Instead it tries to simulate communities with things like CRZ, phasing, and again thing like the Group Finder. The expansion is currently built for players that only have 1-2 hours per week to play.
That’s far from the community I came to know when I started back in Wrath.
You mean the same LFD that was introduced in WotLK?
Have you considered that you’re burned out, and that you’re grasping at straws to avoid admitting the problem?
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/disagree
Good news for you, though… if you want a version of WoW that fits with your vision, it’s coming in August.
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LFD was the start that began to put things in a downward spiral. The implementation of LFD was not the problem. But it was them taking it way too far with all the systems they’ve added.
And no it’s not burnout. To state that it would be burnout would mean that the game would have had to remain exactly the same. It has drastically changed since Wrath.
Classic isn’t too far off. I’ll be much happier playing that instead of this expansion.
No you stay in classic and ill stay here thank you!nothing in retail has to go.
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Then leave, and quit your bemoaning and trying to change retail for the worse in the pursuit of some misguided sense of ‘community’.
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Well if anything, I have hope for Classic to change retail for the better. We’re already seeing the influence of player interaction via streams in the beta. BFA isn’t really bringing in anyone new. And with a quick glance at all the PR it has recieved, it doesn’t seem to be doing well.
The last thing I want is an OSRS situation. But if that’s what it takes to get retail back on track then I’m game.
So, some people looking at streamers following the newest novelty is indicative of success? Ask Fallout 76 how important hype is to the success of a game.