You lost me at Battlegrounds, has that was queable in classic
- If that were true, why do different games have different types of communities? Why is FFXIVâs community different than WoWâs? Call of Dutyâs from Halo? Hint: Every aspect of a gameâs design effects what type of community forms.
Also, a month huh? What do I win when youâre shown to be completely wrong.
I dont want to go back to waiting for hours to do ONE dungeon or a raid. It wasnt fun back then, and it wouldnt be fun now.
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I was there and I was fine without the tool; granted when it first came out I loved it, me and my friends could just constantly grind out random dungeons but what it did end up doing is preventing my friends list from growing as much as it used to. The LFG tool isnt all bad, but how a group starts(with or without communication) typically is how the group stays. LFG makes people antisocial, or at least makes them more antisocial then before the tool. Mythic dungeons have the same vibe to them as random heroic dungeons.
I would wager there are a lot less people finding friends in dungeons now vs what it was before the tool. And I think that aspect of MMOâs is vastly underappreciated right now, specially in WoW. WoW at this point feels more like diablo then WoW.
And a lot of that goes to how you were trained up from the beginning of the xpac to launch. I agree though if you had to walk back from a zone graveyard that might help. They need to do something though.
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Oh my god, those cry babies again
Than blizzard removed the group finder, you cant find a single group for dung, or even mithyc⌠so you come back to foruns crying to put back group finder because realised that the problem is the ppl that uses the system, and not the system itself
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I think the bigger problem for communities is CRZ, sharding, low server populations and now layering.
All âlooking for groupâ tools are fine. You donât need to use them to make your group of friends for a dungeon.
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Tell me what those numbers represented and where exactly that information came from. They might be real but they might also represent something that means something other than what you think it means.
BfA really is fine as an expansion. Sure some people donât care for some systems, aka raiders mostly and are very vocal about it but that means nothing when most other people are happy and keep playing.
There is no reason to think my guilds would be something special in that very few people have quit playing this expansion.
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Will do, got it bookmarked.
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Naw its cool, you can google it if ya want. Itâs clear you think new blizzard is awesome and doing a great job. You can think what you will, not a big deal to me.
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Switch to tank or heal⌠que fixed
Lfg is tied to phasing ⌠its in the game
Now kill off arena and u have a decent platform to preach on
BGs were not queueable anywhere in the world till WOTLK Ulduar patch. Arena wasnât till MoP or WoD. You had to go to the npc and queue yourself or in a group.
I just did and the information makes no sense but if you donât have any more critical thinking skills to think 3 million sub at the start of BfA isnât correct then any discussion with you is pointless. And even if that number was correct then it means BfA isnât the problem anyway since subs always drop after the expansion has been out awhile.
> At the start of [ **BfA** ] we had 3.2m subs, now at 1.7m of which ~25% are secondary
I know, but OP made it look like getting the rid of the que entirely. Made me think he was saying pre-made groups only
no it wonât, especially when half the people you see out in the world are from another server and all the people you canât stand mucking up chat with their BS are from your own.
No, Iâve been around since 2007, the âcommunityâ back then was guilds and outsiders. You had to bend a knee. I know this because I had people bending the knee to be in my guild and do content. It wasnât fun for either party. The community has a toxicity problem that existed long before LFD came around. IN fact LFD made it harder for the most obnoxious of players to lord over server communities by filling roles that were in demand, like tanks. The more decentralised power is, the better.
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dungeons kinda need the LFD system or they really wouldnât happen the player base lving is probably to spread out at this point. Also lol complaining about heroic and normal dungeon, you must have never entered a real dungeon hiding behind the low lvl alt. LFR is debatable but yeah removing it probably wont increase raid participation that much in the upper difficulties.
Server communities started breaking down before the LFD was added in late wrath. Donât get me wrong I miss logging in at 8am on my days off and saying âLFM 2 dps 1 healer afor heroic daily VHâ as much as the next guy but those days are over and removing them would do some damage to the casual base of the game.
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LFR / LFD roots are now too deep in Retail, removing them would invite quite major backlash i feel
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How about you go to classic when itâs up? Group finder is a quality of life change people would quit over if it wasnât available. M+ would be x1000 slower to form due to only having people in your âphaseâ see your message and then checking their IO and being bad.
Theyâve already quit. Thereâs no âwould quit.â Youâre all thatâs left. Also if you formed guilds and server communities you wouldnât need to rely on those tools. Theyâre a symptom of a lack of community.
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This isnât the way to go, in my humble opinion. You donât build something by taking things away.
Incentivize running instanced content with players from your server.
Hereâs a quickly slapped-together example:
If you run a dungeon with 3 or more other players from your server, you have a 50% chance for an additional piece of loot dropping at the end of a dungeon.
If you and four other same-server players enter the dungeon as a party, the chance increases to 100%.
We do this for guild runs. Perhaps expand this concept.
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Look at group finder groups and youâll see itâs used by a huge population of the players, if not all. Always lots of PVP/M+/WQs addons/ect groups forming and looking for people. If you donât like a feature, donât use it, youâll have classic to enjoy soon enough. Let the rest of usother 99% players enjoy quality of life changes. Stop trying to remove stuff that only helps the game(retail).
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