Griefing WSG As a Premade Mostly Streamers

Unable to provide a link of anyone being actioned for not capping the flag. You know what you can be actioned for? - directly insulting people on these very forums.

I didnt create the world. Im not pushing for a change to wsg - i hate the fact they become timed in retail. What if i enjoy lasting as long as possible holding the flag? What if i make a premade thats sole intention is to not win, and not have the enemy cap flags. What if i joined a premade that only wanted to farm you in the gy?

You called it an exploit - clearly it isnt.

why did they create the timer?

This is also in the code of conduct.

The Game Master staff will not intervene in Player versus Player (PvP) disputes.

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Games were taking too long because of this turtling.

To push games faster. To break the stalemate of 2 caps each and 2 flags being held in a turtle defence situation.

Cite this please, I need a source. You forgot about the gy camping and the stomping of pugs.

GY camping isnt actionable - they pushed a small change that is designed to make this form of pvp less viable for the honor grind - you can still gy camp for hours in a bg. The pug issue was players que dodging forcing games into a vastly outnumbered start ratio.

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Ya, until it became a problem later. We know this because history. Why do you justify toxic behavior that drives people away from the game, that is what baffles me. People should want fair play, honest play, even play. Not the “lets farm pugs for honor because its easy and the best way to meta the game.” Its a sad sad thing you do.

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What’s not fair about a team turtling with the flag?
Go
and
kill
them.

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I dont do it? But i have been on the recieving end of it many many times. I have also intentionally turtled games against a premade (while solo quing) to hurt their honor per hour.

Still doesnt make anyones choice within that bg actionable as others have stated. As long as they are in the map and can be attacked/killed its safe ground. The second they abuse a wall jump and goto somewhere that cant be reached by rp walking - then it becomes an exploit.

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well I agree with this. We have no problems here.

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Same team, (99% chance i know who this is) consistently uses safe spots with their FC, then crys when we blind their carrier and nuke him, entitled dicks. Get over yourself cos you have a stream now button. Bunch of crybaby griefers.

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If me using mind control, a skill blizzard gives me to force someone to leave the BG is griefing, then this definitely is.

The person everyone is being careful not to mention by name who is doing this has already finished ranking. They already have their gear, so they don’t mind wasting 30 minutes to troll people who are still trying to rank.

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Which streamer does this? They just got a new follower. I would watch this.

There is, however, a slight but pertinent difference between pvp disputes and zone disruption.

I can recall back in WoD during the early days of the opening of the entry through to Tanaan Jungle, a large multiboxer player camped the portal opening in the opposition base on a pvp server and slaughtered anyone coming through. Because at that time I believe the only way to get to that zone was through the portal, it was considered to be a zone disruption and a GM did indeed step in and action it.

Now, it’s been a while and I may have some of the details wrong but that’s what I recalled reading at the time. If somebody was involved and personally remembers it, sing out.

So they fail at “wpvp” yet dominate you in a 10v10 even-playing-field to the extent you’re unable to win a single 10v10 fight to kill them - return the flag?

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It doesnt matter the reasoning behind it - its not against the tos. It only becomes an exploit when you leave the game map into areas where you cant be attacked or killed without having to exploit yourself to get there. If you cant rp walk there - you shouldnt be there.

That’s up to Blizzards interpretation and how they intend the BG to be played.

But it’s still very simple to fix and screw the flag party out of everything.
Just have your side quit the BG, take 15 go make a sammich and come back for a new match.

Never in the last 15 years has anyone ever been actioned against for not capping a flag. Not once.

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