Raid ready? You wouldn’t even have to raid. 400 is HEROIC raid level gear
and it is being changed because of that, which is good so it isnt an argument.
I don’t play alts so I’ll concede that point to you (it makes no difference to me nor am I invested. I personally don’t care about the 30%, in fact I’d be for you guys getting more than that. It’s the handing out of gear we have to bust our butts off for that diminishes the point of playing this game to me.
Did they say the 400 gear is becoming 385? I didn’t have the patience to watch that guy blabber on for an hour and a half. Just been catching snippets of recap. Always up to hear more tidbits.
Anyways I’ve been in War Mode almost continuously since BfA launched. The reason you got swarmed at Azerite quests is because Alliance wasn’t bothering to use War Mode. How it is now I am getting swarmed at every WQ, it could have always been that way - that’s what I’m saying. The only reason Horde had an advantage is because you guys gave us one.
It’s still an argument because people still justify it.
Ok cool. Is there a source BTW?
Even statistically horde have a numbers advantage in those interested in pvp. Most people you saw mad that warmode gave bonuses were the ultra casuals on ally. So no, the ones who wanted to WM had it on but we were more than outnumbered and it scared most away. You could sit in lfg for a long time before youd even get half the numbers you would need to be able to fight back.
I mean cmon, horde were making posts angry that they couldnt find ally to finish their CTA and then we get a bonus and more show up and now they are angry ally get a bonus.
The QnA, dont know the time stamp. Something something alliance is severely under represented and they may have gone too far with the ilvl to try and balance it out.
They can justify it all they want but it is being changed so it is pointless to try and argue it.
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Ok I dipped out on the QnA too soon, that’s actually good news. Hopefully the microtransaction bounty Method and Limit gave them by mass going Alliance for the 400 pieces then flipping back to Horde doesn’t convince them to keep lopsided loot rewards in the game.
As for the “interested in PVP” part, that’s why I say I’d be down for the increase over 30%. Just don’t diminish hard work.
Scrapped mine as it was a one hand mace which I had no use for, good luck on the RNG status.
Why?! Just hold onto it until you get an offhand. Technically speaking you’re potentially better off with a 1h and an offhand since you can have 2 sockets.
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I wouldnt worry, blizzard didnt make any money of the big xfers other than a small spike in token purchases because they used the gold they got from doing carry runs. I think it just speaks volumes that top end raiding guilds would only swap to get the gear if they had the means to immediately go back for the racials.
And in the same regard, it’s pointless to argue WM balance since now Alliance have turned it on with good results.
Alliance arent the ones talking about. Alliance are the ones having to remind horde how it was for them because they are the ones angry about it. So what does this have to do with it? I know im not complaining, just pointing out ally went through it too but horde is acting like the sky is falling.
You don’t get it. WM is more balanced now due to Alliance turning it on. Why couldn’t they just do that from the start?
No you arent getting it. Alliance is already underrepresented in pvp. Blizz enticed the ultra casuals into turning it on for warm bodies. Without the bonuses they would have never bothered.
We’re not talking rated pvp here. it’s WM. Turn it on, group up. If Alliance can do that for a shiny piece, then what’s the problem?
I think the racials are pretty even. Check bloodmallet if you don’t believe me. We’re the same spec so this is an easy comparison. If I transferred back to an Alliance Worgen my DPS would be about the same as it is now. In fact I might do a little better since I’d have an addional movement cooldown that this chart doesn’t take into consideration. (I miss Darkflight)
https://bloodmallet.com/index.html#druid_balance?data_view=races&fight_style=hecticaddcleave
It’s just the community. People raid where the raiders are, it makes things easier for recruitment, filling a group, etc. (Mythic requires exactly 20 with no flexibility in numbers or even specific comp) My guild recently realm changed for similar reasons. We’re not pushing Mythic at all, but raiding on a server with crap raiding success leads to a crap tier experience.
At launch and the following weeks I remember the guild chat (heavy pve) folks saying that they had it off. A pvp person convinced them to turn it on since ally all had it turned off and you could do all your emissaries and farming without ever having to engage in pvp. My wife was one of those people. She had 0 interest in pvp.
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pretty sure rated pvp is a good way to see interest in pvp which correlates to willingness to do world pvp. You can even look at at randoms and ally is the underdog because we have the quick queues and horde has merc mode. So my statement stands and you are just arguing in a circle. The interest was spiked with shiny stuff so the ultra casuals turned it on to get it. Without the shiny they dont want to bother.
Is part of it. The belf interrupt made it so that pushing mythic keys was far easier to gear up for raids. They were the only race that had a limit in the esport side of mythic + races because of how powerful it was. Now that it is a dispel yeah it only helps counter one boss and might not help in the new raid but horde also has zandalari coming down the chute. Even if damage interupts their healing racial right off the bat they still get 25% health on a 1.5min cd which is already 15% more than gift of the naaru plus they get a list to choose from for their other racial.
TLDR: it isnt that ally racials are bad, it is that horde racials have more practical uses and zandalari will give each member of that race a self reset and they can be any class but locks. Belf started the trend and now there is no reason to leave because the trend is staying strong.
It’s pretty much all of it. EU Alliance are the rated pvp kings, even with “weaker racials”
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that is because a trend was set, i already explained that ally racials arent weak. Just that now that the US used belfs for pushing mythic keys it set a trend on the US side. You are still pointing out things that I am not arguing and actually agree with.
Anything else you would like to interject yourself into to try and argue points that have already been covered?