"Good players wont keep raiding"

[Sentenzå-sargeras]

Bro, just quit SoD, lol.

[Dotdotdelete-bloodsail-buccaneers]

I haven’t seen any SR pug clearing Heroic Lich King. I’ve seen GDKPs do it though.

[Ardros-lone-wolf]

No, it was both. Blizzard specifically mentioned both.

[Maximorben-area-52]

@Partyrock-skull-rock

So the best solution is an automated group finder of some sort. Since there’s literally no valid reason not to have one, that should be put into the game.

The same reason not to have LFR is the same reason not to have GDKP. Here, Ill let a blue fill you in:

@Kaivax

However, we’ve been concerned that GDKP erodes traditional guild and social structures that are in many cases the basis of our most fond memories of early versions of World of Warcraft.

Just replace GDKP with LFR.

[Jarnock-moon-guard]

Okay. GDKPs are banned for good reason in SOD, but I bet raids still get cleared.

We don’t need you guys lol

[Denubis-faerlina]

If gdkps get banned there will be more pugs. On wild growth currently there are very few gdkps, and i have no issues pugging my 4 toons each lockout. They always go 7/7 and have not once lost someone mid raid to loot.

Could you find a terrible pug, sure! I have definitely done crap gdkps too in classic tbc/wotlk.

Guess i dont see how this change blows up your play or mine at present

[Dotdotdelete-bloodsail-buccaneers]

Ban the AH next. A lot of RMT gold flowing through there too.

[Greystar-grobbulus]

Nope just GDKP.

GG here too.

[Dotdotdelete-bloodsail-buccaneers]

Wait till i’m right little bro.

[Dotdotdelete-bloodsail-buccaneers]

Your tears will be great

[Greystar-grobbulus]

Yours already are

[Moosë-benediction]

whoa there buddy, slow your roll. you keep that group finder trash far away from my vanilla.

[Jarnock-moon-guard]

None of those items are BoPs earned through raiding. BoP items literally exist because they didn’t want people buying the best loot in the game for gold.

[Glinda-lava-lash]

@Sentenzå-sargeras

Bro, just quit SoD

Pretty sure he has, three or four times.

[Maximorben-area-52]

Fingers crossed for number 5 then

[Dotdotdelete-bloodsail-buccaneers]

I’m not crying. I’m laughing at your future grey parses being gatekept by me or someone like me.

[Sentenzå-sargeras]

@Moosë-benediction

you keep that group finder trash far away from my vanilla.

That guy is the guy who hates GDKP for “bad reasons”.

Yes, some people hate GDKP for “good reasons” (and I get it, hence why I’m mostly unbothered about the whole thing), but many people hated it for “bad reasons”, aka they are bad and they think somehow banning GDKP gives them a chance to get invited to a group. That guy is the grey parse guy I mentioned.

[Sentenzå-sargeras]

They will never be satisfied until Blizzard forces people to carry them.

[Moosë-benediction]

everyone hates that guy, that guy sucks.

i just hate the RMT more, and if grey parse/leveling greens andy happens to be the beneficiary of blizz taking some kind of action (albeit inadequate) against it then fine.

would i prefer they just left the gdkp groups alone and go after the gold buyers (who are the ones actually fueling the problem) with permabans instead, yes.

but they wont, so here we are with a crappy half measure solution that is still better than nothing, so ill take it.

[Glinda-lava-lash]

@Dotdotdelete-bloodsail-buccaneers

I’m laughing at your future grey parses being gatekept by me or someone like me.

You have a seriously over-inflated sense of your own power.