Only one way to find out.
I donât really care about the XP or AP bonus, the free heroic piece is a much bigger problem and should not be there.
The system is also flawed because since itâs a weekly thing what happens is that Alliance gets it because they are outnumbered, then they turn warmode on, join a group to camp the turtle WQ and quickly finish the quest, then turn it off for the rest of the week, so at the end of the week they all have it off and get the quest againâŠ
As contrast, Horde players often have it on by default, and you just turn it off when you need to do the quest that alliance is camping so you donât get 10v1ed and then you turn it back on.
Itâs not only about the rewards but also it just doesnât really promote WPvP, when you run around the world thereâs still almost exclusively horde until you bump into where the alliance is clustered (usually at a turtles WQ) and itâs a 10v1 there. Yes getting 10v1âed is part of Wpvp and it will happen sometimes, but it should be the outlier, the common occurrence should be small skirmishes: 1v1, 1v2, 2v2, 3v2, etc.
The small skirmishes would certainly make it fun, my experience hasnât been that though. I usually get attacked by a Horde pain train group, after that I go back and turn off WM and finish what I was doing.
Thatâs possible. I doubt it though. I donât think itâs healthy for either side to have an advantage. I personally HOPE that blizzard likes the idea of the LOA blessings and just make that a thing for each race. It would honestly make things balanced and removes the excuse for X or Y.
I mean, because of my education and what I do, I can tell you that âallianceâ being the first option in character creation new players were already predisposed to pick alliance when they started the game. Hence why I feel the population was alliance heavy to begin with. Regardless, since people max sims, there was always going to be a % difference due to racials. Iâm assuming that is the race balance issue. Easily solvable with a blessing type racial.
Like the days of Tarren Mill and Southshore, I get it, fun days, but when you left that area and quested you were facing raid groups at quest nodes. World pvp was more exciting because it was less contrived. The current state of things is not PVP, this is Blizzard forcing a round peg in a square hole.
You can bring up the tired racials excuse for not pvping all you want but handing out HEROIC level gear the day the new tier comes out is stupidity on another level.
I reupped shortly after cancelling on Sunday to check out the new raid. I honestly regret doing it and will not be reupping again after this 30 days. The people that run the game now are clueless.
I actually did this last night as well. Got a 400 head piece.
Joined a 5 man group that was camping a dungeon entrance.
There were I 10-15 alliance there at the time.
The horde players would basically run a gauntlet to try and get in to the instance.
Many made it.
Many, also, did not.
It was pretty uninteresting gameplay. I think I got a Chaos Bolt off twice during the whole ordeal. I basically limited myself to Conflagerate, which is instant cast, just to tap the players. They either died very quickly or made it through.
Tried fearing some, had my Succubus out (but with a 1.3s cast time, she wasnât doing much).
Nothing ever laid a hand on me.
I certainly appreciate the new 400 piece, but the whole experience was mostly unsatisfying from a game play perspective.
I donât know if I can do the 25 man quest in a BG. If I can, then I may try that next time.
Well yeah since the alliance are often all clumped together in a specific spot camping a WQ, when you get out of that spot you are going to run into mostly Horde players and be outnumbered every time.
I donât know what the solution is, I just give feedback on whatâs the current situation and hope Blizzard figures out a better way to promote a better warmode experience.
Yea I didnt do this. I had a few kills where there was more alliance then horde. But eventually there would be a Horde group that came along and killed me. I had several 1v1âs. Was fun.
Ya, they can be. I would be happy if I had a 400 ilvl piece too as a result. However, not the same experience and not the same reward. Excuse me, there a 8 alliance bounties on my map I have to run from. brb
The solution is for bonuses to be removed from WM all together IMO. At least thatâs a fair solution. Then very few people would have WM on so that in turn would create different threads on the matter.
you will too.
Flawed logic here, Blizzard hasnât told anyone how the bonus works other than to say the side less represented gets it. They may count anyone who has it on at any time, they may count total time on, they may use some other method of determining it. Donât make assumptions.
If you donât like it turn it off, simple as that.
Disgusting, and not you of course but that it happens.
My one PvP talent, which was my reason for turning it on not the bonuses, is no longer worth it.
Enjoy the gear Alliance, really. I now understand your misery early, but this misery has a reward attached to it for you now. PvP is not worth getting camped by a FP.
Weird how thatâs a justified response to a Horde player. I mean, thatâs all the alliance had to do.
Holymonky brings up a valid point. We really donât know if the WM ON is really benefiting alliance for more of a presence in World PVP. As a result of a lack of communication, Iâd say that speculation is another problem of how this is being handled.
I donât get how Blizzard thought this would ever fix anything, you guys toggle warmode on, get your do the quest and get your reward , and toggle it off.
Itâs a shortsighted, I canât even call it a fix, and broken.
Warmode gear should require warmode to even equip it, or they should just remove the bonuses. They could do fun things like temporary titles Such as Tsavis the slayer of incompetent disappointing minions. I love that one.
Or have it where you can do a pvp battle in old Southshore for a day.
Those would be fun incentives.
I donât know how they figure it out, itâs either broken or alliance are exploiting it by toggling it off on Sunday night or something.
You mean⊠the system that was designed from the beginning to rebalance the wPvP flags is WORKING? Stop the presses!!
Yet another salty Horde player! You should be jazzed that there are so many alliance players to go after now.
Or is your salt that you canât just stomp lone players trying to quest?
When the enemy has enough numbers to fight back you arenât up to the task? Perhaps your version of pvp is more about ganking and less about pvp?
Should it not be about the quality pvp experience? Ultimately the experience is the reward.
He quietly smiles watching rivers of salty tears flowing into the ocean.
Your âmiseryâ now is a direct result of your actions as horde players. Horde players would go around in groups and gank alliance players. Then they would come on and complain about no one to kill in war mode. This change to the system is a DIRECT result of that. So you have no one to thank but yourselves for this mess.
Yeah that was the whole point and still is - most alliance players arenât interested so blizz continues to try to bribe them. However, since horde racial traits guarantee that if 2 opposing faction player with the same gear and skill level pvp, the horde player will always win. This results in the raid group stuff.
The incentive is a direct result of players complaining there isnt enough Alliance to battle with. However, you are correct. Most people will get their item and turn WM back off for the rest of the week.