Sweet jesus get a grip i can post whatever i feel like go away from replying to me then if you got a problem with it so simple just ignore me then.
I do
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No point in anything really even your post right? Donât play if you donât enjoy it.
What they are meaning is, its easier and much more reasonable to just simply do mythic + rather then try and push mythic raid.
Which is true. It is far easier to do mythic + dungeons then it is raids.
M+ is more fun than raiding is as well.
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Again, i agree, and personally i dont have a problem with mythic + for gear
Where everyone stepped into bgâs to gear up instead?
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Itâs another thread of: âI no longer feel special because someone somewhere got a nice piece of gear.â
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Pretty much.
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So? Itâs the last of 9 bosses in the raid. This is called shifting the goalpost. Your claim is that people get equivalently geared doing less content. Except they donât because M+ weekly chest is 410 not 415 and now instead of acknowledging that your point was entirely fabricated youâre now arguing over the âeffortâ to do M Jaina, all the while ignoring the âeffortâ you also say it takes to do the rest of the bosses in the raid. This is what happens when you backpedal on a point you make so much that youâre now debating nothing substantive. But the reality is people doing M+/Mythic raiding have been ahead of people doing heroic/M+ and so on down the line. We knew your claim was bunk because Blizzard has already told us thatâs what they see internally.
They tried to spice up the loot by adding interesting effects. They failed because the drawbacks are often not worth the increase combined with how annoying the raid is to do anyways. If the gear had standard itemization it would have been perfectly fine and a blatant upgrade over BoD loot. Thatâs what it should have had imo. Though Iâm wondering if that was kinda the point. Loot that wasnât actually an upgrade in a lot of cases because they were trying to minimize power creep from Crucible. Speculation, but meh. I wouldnât be surprised if it played out exactly as they expected.
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more of, why are people who put in minimal effort getting the same rewards as people who are putting in far more effort.
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So I can login and collect a full set of 415 gear + random forges on top? Oh, wait, I canât. Your claim doesnât match reality.
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Can you get that instantly? No you canât.
Can you get that from constant mythic+10 runs? Yes you can.
I think thatâs what OP is getting at. Mythic+ is spammable, requires less people, and significantly less communication and effort, and rewards gear at the same ilvl.
Mythic raiding at this point is pretty much for the achieves alone.
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This is acceptable!
Maybe to you, to a lot of people would argue the rewards shouldnât be equal for people who put in 20% of the effort of raiders.
Not to mention with how easy it is now to get high ilvls itâs become a useless metric to check people, hence more reliance on raiderIO and achieve linking.
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You have to spam M+ to get 415âs in every slot. So, that is a lot of work and luck of course since it is not the base item level.
Sure you can. Except M10 completion doesnât reward 415. It rewards 400 ilvl gear. If youâre farming forges at high keys for the bonus loot youâre doing comparably difficult content. And thatâs entirely by design because M+ is intended to be alternative progression to raiding. But thatâs not âŠ
Thatâs people putting in comparable effort in an alternative system. The people who put in minimal effort arenât ending up ~420 ilvl. Theyâre not doing organized group content and theyâre capping out around 405. If 15 ilvl difference isnât enough for your fragile ego, boo hoo.
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I donât play retail.
Why post here then?
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How can you say that when you havenât done either? Let me guess âyour friend told you.â Why donât you give the content that you bash constantly a try, then come back here and let us know what you think?