It’s always been this way and didn’t stop people from pushing.
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We seem to agree on this matter, Haugs 
But the catchup in WoD was amazing. Why not make this fun and fast so gearing feels good and encourages more people to play and on more characters?
Why can’t rating give the same gear but faster? It amounts to the same thing as better gear being locked behind rating, except for the very end of the season.
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In previous expansions, they had catchup systems for conquest gear, and that conquest gear wasn’t at a lower ilevel than other people’s conquest gear.
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And people geared as they pushed rating.
dude literally nobody said they don’t want a level playing field, literally everyone is saying a 1 degree tilt in the field isn’t the reason u suck
personally I don’t care how I get the gear bc if it is heinous I just won’t do it which is hilarious bc I don’t even do that NOW when it is the most ridiculous it has ever been and me being this way has hindered my progress NONE
I don’t do visions I don’t do assaults I don’t spam m+ as a matter of fact I haven’t done a key in who knows how long I literally put gear on my character from where ever it came from and put corruptions on my gear with echoes and everything worked out fine for me
edit: I can’t even socket my gear bc I don’t have the stupid tech tree finished on either of my characters
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But without rating locked gear, the wall will only be because of skill.
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Because we aren’t talking about a significant ilvl differential that is inaccessible in pvp.
You need to get to 1600 to get heroic quality raid gear.
It’s been datamined that 2100 gives 226, which is mythic quality.
In BFA, 1800 was its own gear tier. 2400 may have an item behind it, not sure.
It’s likely there will be one-two more gear brackets between 1600-2100.
So, if there are four brackets, we’re talking an ilvl differential of 3 between each bracket.
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You are quite aggressive. Those are item examples all throughout wow’s history. Literally those seasons 90% of bis gear came from pvp. In addition just because those items did exist didn’t mean it was correct…
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You clearly just want PVE gear to be the best in PVP and have made that point repeatedly.
Locking gear behind rating makes it even easier for PVE players to stomp in PVP.
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you are quite delusional to pretend the power swing between a shadowmourne warrior and a pvp weapon warrior is even close to similar or even in the ballpark of single digit percentiles of power gap
that is literally all I’m saying, advocate for a level playing field, that sounds fine to me. BUT you don’t have to literally lie nonstop to advocate for the change u want to see happen
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I have not made that point ever. You wrongfully attribute an arguement to me that I do not hold. I understand that some of my takes are incredibly nuanced and complex, but if you do not understand them, I’d rather you simply ask me to clarify instead of strawmanning me.
No it doesn’t. Plenty of other people in this thread also support the rating gate. Are you saying that we all just want PVE gear to be BiS in PVP?
It doesn’t make much sense to get mythic iLVL from the 1800s bracket.
Why, because you won’t do rated pvp? Let’s just face it, they don’t want random Bgs to give mythic raid level gear nor should they.
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If amounts to the same ilvl difference, throughout the whole season except the last two weeks, then all it does is crap on anyone who doesn’t do rated.
Higher rated players get the same gear benefit (save for the very end).
Did you do rated in WoD? Did that gearing system make PVP bad for you?
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I really don’t understand why people are focusing so intently upon a 3 ilvl differential between brackets when pve trinkets exist.
It is beyond me. We actually have a reasonable and good gearing system and the last thing that really needs fixing is pve trinkets.
I’m not concerned about minor rating-gating because I want to always improve as a player and improve my gear while I do so.
To each his own, but I’ve no problem with working harder for better gear
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Lie non stop? I didn’t even mention a single piece of specific gear but that historically 90+% of the best gear came from pvp alone? IN ADDITION because those outliers SHOULDNT have been in pvp DOESNT justify the response that because the game had outliers before that it’s acceptable moving forward (in a perfect gear balanced world)
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You only carry one set of gear for PVE and PVP, and you think that no one should care about any stats unless they are the top 1%. You said the gearing system in SL was perfect before they made any of the recent changes to the vendor.
There is no nuance there.
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As it will in slands. You’ll just have to put effort into pushing rating.
“Noooo I want the best gear in the game to be participation trophies”
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There’s more nuance to this, and we’ve already been over it. I said people shouldn’t be OBSESSED with stats unless they are in the top 1%, which is a huge difference. Care =/= obsess.
Also, none of what you posted has anything to do with PVE gear in PVP.