Well, no point in continuing this anymore if you aren’t going to respond in a respectful and logical manner. Have a good day man.
Nah. They won’t be banned. It will just be so cumbersome/annoying people won’t want to do it.
WoW doesn’t have duped SOJs to play with.
you deciding you can’t continue on a few alts is far less damaging to any structure you can imagine than the rampant rmt that was involved in over half of the gdkps
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Ye, I play with a guild, as intended. I enjoy that if I have to miss a raid time I can join literally any PuG MS>OS and clear the raid just fine. If we were inundated with GDKP as the nigh-exclusively predominant pug format like in Era/Wrath, I just wouldn’t raid that week.
You cleared up to Kelriss just fine.
Beyond that… 
Yeah I’m kinda over explaining things to GDKP advocates, and the game has shifted to reason, so I don’t really need to sweat in these conversations. If you don’t wanna understand the devs’ decision then I really don’t care.
Nah, I thought that was gonna be the case early on in the phase because of all the noise surrounding terrible pugs, but I have never once not finished the whole thing when joining a pug MS>OS group. The times have all been less than an hour. Since I haven’t run into issues in the handful of pugs I’ve joined, I have to imagine that that’s the majority situation.
The raid is like a slightly harder UBRS, and really doesn’t deserve the pedestal its been put on.
It’s either GDKP is banned or another way is implemented. In retail the carry problem is solved by just making the pinnacle of endgame content hard enough that most of it cannot be carriable. If people don’t want GDKP to be banned I suggest just that. Make the raids so hard that carries are not a consideration. If people still want to bid at that point that’s fine.
After reading this thread, I can tell Sylverah has experience and speak facts. Pretty sad to see people that are fanatically anti-GDKP trying to gotcha them.
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The move to phase 2 is going to devalue liquid gold more than any amount of decrease in exchanges rates ever could. It could go to literal zero USD and it would be a rounding error in 2 weeks.
Blizzard removed something from the game that was highly inflationary, maybe even THE most inflationary, and you guys are sitting here with tears in your eyes trying to use the resultant price adjustment as an argument NOT to do it. The resetting of the price, however large it might be, is literal objective QUANTIFIABLE proof as to how much gdkp influenced the broader economy, and there is a mathematical formula somewhere that I’m sure could derive what percent of inflation was driven by it.
I bet you also make the “a few bad apples” excuse too. 2 mutually exclusive “arguments” just rattling around in the same head.
Idk it’s real telling how a lot of the GDKP defenders have admitted to being banned for gold buying or “other reasons” and they have post history on the CS forum appealing bans.
I have a hunch that RMT and GDKP go together like peanut butter and jelly 
Yeah well, they should be banned, legit GDKP users don’t care about them.
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Oh I absolutely agree with all of this. That’s why I personally have about 6k gold tied up in various areas and only am going into P2 with ~1k liquid. My initial point was more along the lines of how drastically the demand / price for gold fell after the news hit. It’s been fairly steady for awhile now but almost got cut in half versus what it was just a few days ago, and it coincided with the GDKP news.
Again I don’t disagree that a lot of GDKP buyers were also gold buyers. However, the thing that concerns me the most is if Blizzard does indeed have all these numerous detection systems they stated they do - why could they not just catch the blatant gold buying and perma ban in the first place?
Ehhhhh you guys are joining raids and happily accepting illicit gold thereby adding to the issue even if we give you the benefit of the doubt and don’t believe you buy gold.
The GDKP ban will be just fine.
If Blizzard could calculate the percentage of gold, per each GDKP enjoyer that was swiped.
Not implying it was self-swiped, just acquired.
And not facing any penalties either way.
Would they give up that gold?
Of course, GDKP players offer carries out of the goodness of their heart. If you have 0 gold to your name feel free to come along and get carried! The GDKP community is warm and welcoming
I’ve learned to always assume positive intent with people. Sure, there’s a chance they could have bought that gold. There’s also a chance they’ve earned it. I’ve had to post screenshots at least a few dozen times in various conversations when I tell people I have ~10k gold right now (almost all of that is non-liquid though). Personally I’ve always just found being a Goblin fun in any game I play.
However, GDKP’s are a self perpetuating thing when you start doing them even semi-consistently. You run on your main(s) as a carry (or hybrid) to get gold then you in turn use that gold to fuel your buyer alt runs.
I’m sure a vast majority of people would say no to this, I personally wouldn’t mind it though. I’m all for stopping gold buying. However if they had this theoretical way to calculate this, they would also just be able to simply ban them, no?
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It is my perception that much of the activity on this forum is trolls and that they’ve been having a field day complaining for and against the gdkp ban. I don’t think there’s all that many gdkpers who are cluttering up the forum with this topic. They will figure out a workaround and it will return to business as usual.
I thought this when I read their post and had the same thought. My guess is that eliminating GDKPS will make it easier (relative to X) to go after buyers and sellers.