GDKPers - Next Stage of Grief Pls

Title says it. Just get to the next stage. The denial stuff is clogging up the forum sceptic. What can we do to help? Can you just get to the bargaining stage? Or negotiation? Something? Not even asking for acceptance. Just something else.

Blizz said in the video (if you’d watch it instead of panicking at the summary notes like a bad quarterly report) that Blizz wants suggestions and feedback. So provide it.

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The feeback is “RMT is the actual issue and banning GDKPs does nothing to address it in the long run, it’s akin to treating a cut on your arm by bandaging your leg - sure the placebo effect might make you “feel” better but that’s not stopping your arm wound from beginning to fester.”

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See now this is feedback, great. How about a suggestion for them instead as well? Not just criticism.

RMT is only one of the issues exacerbated by GDKP that they wanna fix by restricting it though. What about the culture part?

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This. Mage dungeon boosts will still exist, expensive BoE’s will still exist, not having to spend time farming gold to buy consumables will still exist, and other numerous other gold sinks will still exist.

Yes, people bought gold so they could run GDKP’s. But those same people also likely bought gold for other things as well. And with the demand for gold now lower the price is lower (dramatically) which means this devalued your liquid gold as well.

But why is gold cheaper? Doesn’t that mean the bot and the seller make less money?

You’re essentially agreeing with the proof.

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Honestly I’ve seen more “culture” in GDKP raids than normal raids, and I’ve done a fair share of both. GDKP’s typically require you to at least join discord (don’t have to talk) and I’ve actually met some cool people in some runs just BS’ing in disc. Every single SR or MS>OS PuG group I’ve joined I don’t remember a single persons name or remember any actual conversation taking place.

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It only devalues it if I had intent to sell it for real money, which I don’t.

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There’s less demand for gold. Prices drop. Yes, bots and RMT’ers make less money now. I don’t see what that has to do with any point I made?

I think you’re talking about something different. I’m referring to the cultural impacts they discussed in the blog.

If they want to go the extremist route? Make gold valueless to all but cosmetics and catch up crated gear like gil is in FF14, and disallow trading of gear after it’s been acquired. It wouldn’t fully remove RMT, but it’ll definitely lessen the impact it has on the game

A vague non-reason given to make people who have no clue what they’re talking about nod and say “ah that makes sense”

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Define culture. Blizzard had a very specific definition for culture, which they stated GDKP was “antithetical” to, so your personal anecdote isn’t really “feedback.”

Again, let’s move past denial. Thanks.

If you’re helpless to understand why they changed it you’ll be helpless in getting them to change it back.

Alright, so humor me then. What does “the culture” mean in this context then?

Again, to the original post, watch the video.

No more denial. Thanks.

Huh?

Isn’t that like 60% of the current discourse? People trying to concoct solutions to the new rules?

Nah, I’d rather discuss it in this discussion here. That is why you created this topic after all, right?

I fail to see how this is a thing either. I still am in a guild. I still run with my guild on my main. GDKP’s just also let me gear up alts in a quicker way (which also let me bring them into fill guild raids as needed). With this change I’m simply just not going to play as many alts, which in turn hurts my guild

And again, I am less social in SR/MS>OS PuG’s than I am in GDKP runs as are most from what I’ve seen.

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we’ve been concerned that GDKP erodes traditional guild and social structures that are in many cases the basis of our most fond memories of early versions of World of Warcraft.

No. Please read the post.

Thanks.